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04/28/2008 10:54:42 PM · #1
Lately I've noticed that everyone is very concerned about the rash of low scoring on challenges. Many believe that members will deliberately vote low on a challenge in an effort to artificially inflate their own scores. I've also noticed that being barred from voting on your own image in a challenge may also affect your score. For example: I voted on the "Games" challenge last night and after giving out multiple 10s, 9s and 8s, I noticed that my score reduced while the number of voters remained the same. Now I know that it could have been due to someone going back and changing their vote, but I can't be sure. I know I'm being long winded so I guess I'll get to the point. In an effort to make challenges fair, which is the concern of many, I feel that the voting rules should be changed so that those who have entries in a challenge cannot vote in it. This would prevent anyone from attempts to artificially inflate their own scores by reducing others. I know that there are those who may agree with me and just as many who won't. That's why I've started this thread, so we can discuss it.
04/28/2008 11:08:46 PM · #2
I believe this was recently discussed. It got pretty hot in that thread. :) I don't agree, by the way. There are many who vote only in those challenges they enter, to see how others take the challenge, etc.
04/28/2008 11:19:18 PM · #3
Or how about a 24 hour waiting period after voting starts to be able to vote in a challenge you're in.
Or only be able to vote in the last 24 hours of a vote.

There's another pattern i have observed that needs addressing. As soon as voting starts there seems to be a rash of low votes to start off the voting then the next day it starts to climb and does so all week. Like some people are voting images really low thinking that it may affect other people's rating at the start of a vote.
04/28/2008 11:23:34 PM · #4
Since I enter as many challenges as I can, the rule you are proposing would prevent me from voting in most challenges. My average vote cast is now 5.9+. Do you really want to cut me out of the process?

eta. And I know of someone who has never entered a challenge. He has been registered for over two years, and his average score cast is 2.9.

Message edited by author 2008-04-28 23:29:43.
04/28/2008 11:45:42 PM · #5
I think most entrants are voting fairly in the challenges they are in. The recent change to stats showing averages for participants and non participants bears this out. Often, the participants average has been higher. I think the participant in the challenge actually has a greater appreciation for the subject because they have an interest in the topic.

I vote in almost every challenge I am in and I know I am nowhere close to a ribbon score. I am competing against myself for that new PB, or some other personal mile marker. What I rate others at is going to have no effect on what they give me or how I do against my goal.

Message edited by author 2008-04-28 23:47:07.
04/28/2008 11:57:56 PM · #6
There are a couple of things one can do when voting in a challenge they have entered. Personally, I turn off my score until I have voted on all of the pictures so that what I am getting has nothing to do with how I vote. I then go through and vote it like I do a typical challenge that I have not entered. After I have completed all of my votes and comments, then I turn on my scores and make sure that I don't change any of the votes I did previously.

Basically, the way I look at it, whenever I get good enough to get to the point of winning, I want to do it against those with realistic high scores that have not been deflated by skewed voting. I want to win because I am good, not because I scored people lower.

I don't think that the solution is to keep people from voting in an entered challenge. As far as someones scores lowering after the initial voting, it may have had nothing to do with a persons entered picture. Many times I go through all of the pictures, give my initial vote scoring people near the number where I think the pictures scores, then I go through a second time and rescore to the final placement. All the best pictures might have been scored a 7, but when I go through the 7s again I see that some really top the chart and so I change their score. Same goes with the 4's, the ones I call snapshot pictures. So, the change to the OP score may have had nothing to do with the voter's picture, just the fine tuning of the votes.

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