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04/11/2008 01:30:07 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by bvy:
Wow, that really works. When I say the best negative images don't look negative, per se, they just look stunning, alien, surreal, funny or otherwise intriguing, this is a good example of what I mean. Negative should be a means to an end, not an end in itself. Can't wait to see what you bring to the challenge. |
thanks.... i expect to crack under the pressure of your frighteningly elevated expectations and greatly disappoint. but only because the flamingo was a total fluke...
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04/11/2008 02:23:42 PM · #27 |
More fun things to try!! I started with this picture:
[thumb]666690[/thumb]
Took the original (slightly different crop), made a duplicate layer (not legal in basic!), inverted that layer (simple inversion is legal in basic - it's how you get the negative), then changed the blending mode (also illegal in basic) to "difference". Voila. Psychoflower!
[thumb]668061[/thumb]
Message edited by author 2008-04-11 14:24:31. |
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04/11/2008 06:14:08 PM · #28 |
| Just found this link for Lightroom. Nice to get a quick preview. |
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04/11/2008 09:50:57 PM · #29 |
I just went through about 6 images using the inversion, and none looked very good. This one came out good, though. It was originally done in sepia, so I just inverted and this is how it came out. Pretty amazing. It will take some real practice to try to get just the right balance of light and dark, and colors.
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Message edited by author 2008-04-11 22:00:09. |
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04/12/2008 02:03:50 PM · #30 |
I'm finding the best negative images are in unexpected places. My unsolicited advice worth exactly two cents: Go through your old images and try them in negative. For that matter, go through anyone's images and try it.
Message edited by author 2008-04-12 14:04:21. |
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04/12/2008 03:03:57 PM · #31 |
I've found my subject.. I just used my phone's option to take pictures in negative.. Very helpful..
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04/12/2008 04:29:11 PM · #32 |
I tried this and it was helpful, so I ll share it with you:
- Take a overexposed picture, by 1 or 2 clicks.
- Take the picture and give it some cooler color temperature,
- Try tint and saturation, to get more vivid colors.
- Invert to negative.
- Change the color temperature once more!
- Darken the brightness and increase contrast of different tone bands.
If you are satisfied go and submit!!!
Of course I would like to hear your tips and comments!
:^)
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04/12/2008 05:39:10 PM · #33 |
| Sounds like it would work well...I already did pp my entry but may as well go play with it a little more and see how it looks, maybe resubmit it... |
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04/12/2008 06:08:02 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by snaffles:
Sounds like it would work well...I already did pp my entry but may as well go play with it a little more and see how it looks, maybe resubmit it... |
*15 minutes later* well i did go and play with the image a bit more and settled for just a minor modification, but wow! what a diff! May even cause my score to go up by 1/2 point or so, lol!
Thanks for the hints Ssocrates! :-) |
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04/12/2008 06:10:47 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by ssocrates:
I tried this and it was helpful, so I ll share it with you:
- Take a overexposed picture, by 1 or 2 clicks.
- Take the picture and give it some cooler color temperature,
- Try tint and saturation, to get more vivid colors.
- Invert to negative.
- Change the color temperature once more!
- Darken the brightness and increase contrast of different tone bands.
If you are satisfied go and submit!!!
Of course I would like to hear your tips and comments!
:^) |
I found some of my best shots were actually underexposed. Take a tree and underexpose it, then when you invert it you get that almost infrared look to it. The tree is very white and if the sky is exposed almost right on it comes out very dark. If it is color you want, which is the route I am following, I can see your tips would work very well. |
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04/12/2008 06:21:56 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
More fun things to try!! I started with this picture:
[thumb]666690[/thumb]
Took the original (slightly different crop), made a duplicate layer (not legal in basic!), inverted that layer (simple inversion is legal in basic - it's how you get the negative), then changed the blending mode (also illegal in basic) to "difference". Voila. Psychoflower!
[thumb]668061[/thumb] |
Hey Deb just saw you finishe 13th out of over 400 entries last time round - way to go! :-) |
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04/14/2008 04:14:30 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by cynthiann:
In CS3, in curves, there is a pre-set pull-down. There are two different pre-set options for negatives. |
So are both of these legal for this challenge? The RGB negative gives some very cool results. |
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04/14/2008 08:02:05 AM · #38 |
Originally posted by ssocrates:
I tried this and it was helpful, so I ll share it with you:
- Take a overexposed picture, by 1 or 2 clicks.
- Take the picture and give it some cooler color temperature,
- Try tint and saturation, to get more vivid colors.
- Invert to negative.
- Change the color temperature once more!
- Darken the brightness and increase contrast of different tone bands.
If you are satisfied go and submit!!!
Of course I would like to hear your tips and comments!
:^) |
Can you explain "color temperature"? Is this a lever/button/feature in photoshop? I'm using Photoshop 4.0 (don't laugh). |
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04/14/2008 10:10:07 AM · #39 |
Originally posted by Moose408:
Originally posted by cynthiann:
In CS3, in curves, there is a pre-set pull-down. There are two different pre-set options for negatives. |
So are both of these legal for this challenge? The RGB negative gives some very cool results. |
I don't know. You can use curves and levels, so I'm not sure about that in CS3 - maybe you can ask somebody in site council. If it is just a pull down option, I would think you could but what do I know? ;~P |
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04/14/2008 11:31:48 AM · #40 |
Originally posted by  CVette
Can you explain "color temperature"? Is this a lever/button/feature in photoshop? I'm using Photoshop 4.0 (don't laugh).
Well I don't use photoshop anyway.
Color Temperature or White balance has to do with the light, sunny, cloudy, interior lights etc, by the means that colors look different under various light conditions.
Practically when you increase the colors temperature a blue sky becomes red and vice versa. The right thing is to control the colors to achieve the correct white tones (white balance) but in our case we make negatives that means everything is upside down.
White balance can be adjusted from the camera be4 the shooting, or post processed in any editing tool.
PS In my previous post overexposed could be underexposed as I see it now depending on the shoot!!
Message edited by author 2008-04-14 11:32:28. |
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04/14/2008 08:16:49 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by bvy:
I'm finding the best negative images are in unexpected places. My unsolicited advice worth exactly two cents: Go through your old images and try them in negative. For that matter, go through anyone's images and try it. |
That's exactly what I have been doing this afternoon. Found one subject in particular that I "really" liked so will play with it tonight. |
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04/14/2008 08:26:01 PM · #42 |
| Try shots that are very boring and invert them. You may be surprised at the result. |
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04/14/2008 08:37:10 PM · #43 |
how do you think a shot that is converted toa negative then color shifted would do? Would it get killed?
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04/14/2008 09:05:15 PM · #44 |
? Where in the basic rules does it refer to Blending modes not being allowed or duplicating layers? I see where it says you can't use Blending Modes on Adjustment layers, but images layers arent' mentioned. I don't see that written in the rules.
Message edited by author 2008-04-14 21:11:04. |
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04/14/2008 09:15:32 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by wagsfx:
? Where in the basic rules does it refer to Blending modes not being allowed or duplicating layers? I see where it says you can't use Blending Modes on Adjustment layers, but images layers arent' mentioned. I don't see that written in the rules. |
Challenge Rules - Basic Editing
You may: "use only Adjustment Layers (or their equivalent). An Adjustment Layer is a special type of layer containing no image data that lets you experiment with color and tonal adjustments without permanently modifying the pixels. Adjustment Layers must be applied in Normal mode."
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04/14/2008 09:42:34 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by wagsfx:
? Where in the basic rules does it refer to Blending modes not being allowed or duplicating layers? I see where it says you can't use Blending Modes on Adjustment layers, but images layers arent' mentioned. I don't see that written in the rules. |
Challenge Rules - Basic Editing
You may: "use only Adjustment Layers (or their equivalent). An Adjustment Layer is a special type of layer containing no image data that lets you experiment with color and tonal adjustments without permanently modifying the pixels. Adjustment Layers must be applied in Normal mode." |
Yes, I understand adjustment layers. What about image layers? Does this statement somehow imply that image layers are the equivalent of Adjustment layers? If so, the way it's written is a little convoluted. |
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04/14/2008 09:47:30 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by wagsfx:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by wagsfx:
? Where in the basic rules does it refer to Blending modes not being allowed or duplicating layers? I see where it says you can't use Blending Modes on Adjustment layers, but images layers arent' mentioned. I don't see that written in the rules. |
Challenge Rules - Basic Editing
You may: "use only Adjustment Layers (or their equivalent). An Adjustment Layer is a special type of layer containing no image data that lets you experiment with color and tonal adjustments without permanently modifying the pixels. Adjustment Layers must be applied in Normal mode." |
Yes, I understand adjustment layers. What about image layers? Does this statement somehow imply that image layers are the equivalent of Adjustment layers? If so, the way it's written is a little convoluted. |
Note the word -- only -- in the sentence mentioned by glad2badad. That means 'only' adjustment layers can be used. |
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04/15/2008 08:12:47 AM · #48 |
This will be a tough decision...colors can make or break it. Do I go with alien/negative looking colors or do I tweak to try to make it look like a positive?
It seems silly to me to try and make it look like a positive, the entire point is a negative to explore another space and not make it look like a postcard.
15 hours left to decide. |
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04/15/2008 09:09:02 AM · #49 |
Originally posted by CVette:
This will be a tough decision...colors can make or break it. Do I go with alien/negative looking colors or do I tweak to try to make it look like a positive?
It seems silly to me to try and make it look like a positive, the entire point is a negative to explore another space and not make it look like a postcard.
15 hours left to decide. |
same decision here
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04/15/2008 09:22:08 AM · #50 |
| Does anyone know if there is a negative option in Photoshop Elements 6 ? This is the only photo editing software I have and cannot seem to find a negative option.... |
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