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03/21/2008 02:01:03 AM · #1
Hi,

I am new to photography but will be taking many shots at high school sporting events such as football, lacrosse, etc. Since these are all in the evening, they will generally be low light in most cases. Which Canon lens would be the best for this situation since it needs to be good at low light, but also needs to have a zoom function to get into the action of the game?

Dave
03/21/2008 02:42:52 AM · #2
Hi Dave,

I'm yet to test my lens at schools, but I use my EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM for arena shots at night. Works really well. It is quite pricey, but worth the money. I added a 1.4x converter on it for a bit of extra zoom.

Jan
03/21/2008 09:51:07 AM · #3
That definately is on our list to get, but a bit on the high end righ now since I just bought this camera. Is there anything you would recommend in the meantime, or is it best to wait and just get the EF 70-200mm once the funds are available?
03/21/2008 11:01:00 AM · #4
The lighting is low, the action fast - you need a lens that can work in the low light and still keep a decent shutter speed, and one that can focus fast. And if you're shooting outdoors it might rain, so weather sealing is a plus.

IS is worth it's weight in gold in some cases - like weddings. But for sports you need shutter speeds of 1/250 or better so IS won't help - so you can save a few bucks and get a non-IS version.

Sigma makes a 70-200 2.8 and it gets good reviews, but the Canon isn't that much more and will hold it's value better, is better built and worth the slightly higher cost.

Other popular sports lenses are the 300 2.8 and 400 2.8 - but you aren't gonna like the prices.


03/21/2008 11:04:30 AM · #5
for high school sports, you can most likely get really close to the action (right on the sidelines). For like $380.00 you could get the 100mm f2 from canon - should work just fine until you can afford an L zoom.
03/21/2008 11:16:51 AM · #6
Ditto hopper, the 100/2 is a good choice, as are the 85/1.8 and the 50/1.4 If you need to go longer, the 135/2 is among the best lenses in the Canon lineup, but more expensive at $900. Given that you normally will be able to get pretty close to the action for indoor HS sports, perhaps the combination of 50/1.4 and 100/2?
BTW, there is an even less expensive 50mm option, the 50/1.8. It would probably work for you, but the 50/1.4 is optically better and has much better overall build... in the end well worth the added cost.
03/21/2008 01:39:41 PM · #7
Really any of the canon f2.8 lenses are your best bet. Get whatever focal length you need, but the 2.8 is going to be what gets you your shot.

I have a rental company in which we carry Canon and Nikon lenses... the good stuff. Have a look and see what gets you the shots you need. The 85 1.2 is fast as hell, but using a prime can leave you a bit limited. We do have the 70-200 IS and non IS. We are offering 50% off 2 week rentals right now so you could do a side by side comparison for pretty cheap.

I think IS does make a difference in low light action shots. I have shot many concerts, some weddings and an Aikido seminar and thought it made a huge difference. But I didn't try them side by side, I just went for the IS version. Prof knows his technical stuff so I would be hard pressed to debate w/o further research.

Justin
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03/22/2008 02:39:47 PM · #8
Thanks for the info everyone, keep it coming.

Here in Florida, they keep everyone off the field and in the stands. Maybe I can get special permission form the school, so I'll look into that. Generally for Football, there is the track around the field, then the stands, so you are talking about 50-100 feet off the field to start.

Other sports of course I should be able to be closer, but those would be indoor and well lit.

03/22/2008 03:15:17 PM · #9
Let me add this, so it may help with suggestions:

As noted, I am really excited about action sports photography, specifically Football. All sports will be fun, but Football is my primary interest. That being said, most high schools in this area keep you in the stands, or around the fence area. There normally is a track circling the field, so add that to the distance. I will look into getting permission to be on the track during the games, but for now I do not know if that is feasible.

My wife has been in photography and has some lenses already. My camera I just bought comes with one lens, so listed below are our combined lens:

EFS 17-85mm
75-300mm
50mm
EFS 18-55mm
EFS 10-22mm

Can you give me suggestion for:

Top two sports action lenses if price IS NOT object

Top two sports action lenses if price IS an object

I can afford the recommended 100/2. My question specifically on that lens is does it have the range to get detail shots in a football game? Also, since it is not IS would a tripod always be needed, or is hand held shots feasible? And lastly, I take it the 100/2 performs well in the typical "football field lighting" in the evening? (These may be basic or repeat questions, but I am completely brand new to all of this!)

Thanks again for all the help everyone, it is much appreciated!!

Dave

Message edited by author 2008-03-22 15:16:51.
03/22/2008 03:26:33 PM · #10
Originally posted by Prowler:

I can afford the recommended 100/2. My question specifically on that lens is does it have the range to get detail shots in a football game? Also, since it is not IS would a tripod always be needed, or is hand held shots feasible? And lastly, I take it the 100/2 performs well in the typical "football field lighting" in the evening?


question 1 - Test it ... take your 75-300 to your nearest football field, set it to 100mm and shoot your wife running around

question 2 - IS is not needed. In order to stop motion during a sport, you're going to need a fast shutter speed (1/350 or faster). Image stabilization will not help (won't hurt, but won't help). No tripod needed due to fast shutter speed.

question 3 - typical footbal field light is not good, which is where the recommmendation for a big aperture comes in. The bigger the aperture (smaller number), the more light it lets in ... you're going to need all the light gathering ability you can get ... which is why 2.0 is better than 2.8. Set the camera to aperture priority at 2.0 with an iso of at least 400 ... probably more like 800 and go nuts :)
03/22/2008 03:29:06 PM · #11
Originally posted by hopper:

Originally posted by Prowler:

I can afford the recommended 100/2. My question specifically on that lens is does it have the range to get detail shots in a football game? Also, since it is not IS would a tripod always be needed, or is hand held shots feasible? And lastly, I take it the 100/2 performs well in the typical "football field lighting" in the evening?


question 1 - Test it ... take your 75-300 to your nearest football field, set it to 100mm and shoot your wife running around

question 2 - IS is not needed. In order to stop motion during a sport, you're going to need a fast shutter speed (1/350 or faster). Image stabilization will not help (won't hurt, but won't help). No tripod needed due to fast shutter speed.

question 3 - typical footbal field light is not good, which is where the recommmendation for a big aperture comes in. The bigger the aperture (smaller number), the more light it lets in ... you're going to need all the light gathering ability you can get ... which is why 2.0 is better than 2.8. Set the camera to aperture priority at 2.0 with an iso of at least 400 ... probably more like 800 and go nuts :)


What he said.
03/22/2008 03:39:42 PM · #12
Originally posted by hopper:


question 2 - IS is not needed. In order to stop motion during a sport, you're going to need a fast shutter speed (1/350 or faster). Image stabilization will not help (won't hurt, but won't help). No tripod needed due to fast shutter speed.



What about panning with some lovely background blur?
03/22/2008 04:06:24 PM · #13
The 70-200 2.8 IS USM lens is a great piece of glass. I have rented it to shoot hockey games and it made my life much easier that my 100-400 L at 4.5-5.6. I'm currently saving to get that 70-200 2.8 and I hope to be able to order it by the end of summer. Just in time for football and hockey season here in S. Florida.

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