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03/18/2008 04:48:09 PM · #51
Originally posted by rinac:

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

I would think that by March of 2008, people would be smart enough to at least Google something before they embarrass themselves by starting a thread on something like this.

How can you read the article and *not* know it's a spoof?????


Hmmm... I guess "Effeminate Violence" in the thread title was not enough of a clue. But I think it's ok that some folk missed it. Just makes this thread a funnier read - no offence kandykarml! :)


lol.. None taken.. I'm so thrilled my clueless post questioning the realness of the article has not only tickled you in some way, but certainly got Jeb and Alan going.. I'll be sure to google each & every single topic on this website from this point on as to verify it's nature before joining the coversation.. If not to reduce the amount of annoyance placed on Jeb's larger then life shoulders, but to at least avoid any embarrassment I may cause myself.. lol In fact, I'm off to research more spoof articles in case one pops up again, I'll be way ahead of the curve.. Thanks guys !! :-)
03/18/2008 05:28:18 PM · #52
Originally posted by shutterpuppy:

Jeb, what is with all the hostility in your forum posts lately? Seriously. I like you man, but I worry about your blood pressure.

Don't mean to be hostile.....DO like to be lively!

Bear in mind that in my own opinion, what I have to say and a buck will get you a cup of coffee a lot of places, temperature optional.

Originally posted by shutterpuppy:

If you read through the accounts of the case, you'll see that the jury did think that Ms. Liebeck was partially responsible for the accident and the jury award took her culpability into account, reducing the award by the percentage of fault that the jury felt was her responsibility. You should also know that not only do judges have the right to reduce jury verdicts that they believe go too far, they actually have the right to vacate the ruling entirely if they feel it is not justifiable given the evidence or even let the ruling stand but vacate the damage award. In this case you have a jury and a judge that -- when presented with all the evidence and the best arguments from either side -- determined that McDonald should not only pay for damages ($180,000 of the award), but should be sanctioned for the company's irresponsible conduct. The jury thought that should be a rather large number, the judge felt that the sanction should be a rather smaller number and adjusted the verdict accordingly -- in other words, the system worked. Why do you -- having not heard the testimony, not reviewed the evidence, but only relying on media accounts -- feel like you have such a better handle on the facts of the case than the jury and the judge?

I did read the article, and yes, to a certain extent, the system did work, except for one glaring point in my mind.

In my opinion, anyone with one whit of personal responsibility would not have:
A. Opened the cup of coffee between their legs
B. Sued someone else if/when they did so.

I will stipulate that upon being approached about her medical expenses, MacDonald's telling her to go pound sand was stupid on multiple levels.
Originally posted by shutterpuppy:

What you are arguing for in theory is "personal responsibility" - that everyone should just take responsibility for their own (in your opinion, stupid) actions. But what this line of argument is really advocating in practice is a system of pushing all liability risk onto the consumer.

Okay, yes, it *IS* my opinion, but if that pperson would have thought at all about what they were doing, don't you think that the thought, "Gee, this coffee might be really hot and that might hurt a lot if I spill it in my crotch."

That's just common sense and survival that would make me think that.

As much as I've done dumb stuff in my lifetime, that isn't one that would happen to me.

Originally posted by shutterpuppy:

Shouldn't "personal responsibility" extend to corporate actions as well? We treat corporations as legal persons under the law, they get a lot of benefits from this distinction, shouldn't they also have to take responsibility for their "stupid" actions? In the McDonald's case the company knew of over 700 other incidents of people being seriously burned because of the temperature at which they had kept their coffee. It was, in fact, so hot as to be not drinkable at the moment of sale. When Ms. Liebeck first approached the company she was only seeking to have her medical expenses paid, but the company outright refused to even entertain paying for her damages or later to settle for $200K when the suit was first filed. To me -- and please note that I am a corporate lawyer, if admittedly a fairly new member of the tribe -- all of this comes across as pretty stupid, irresponsible, arrogant, and unwise actions on the part of the company. Shouldn't your philosophy demand that the corporation be held to at least the same level of responsibility as it's customers?

Absolutely!

See below......8>)
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

ETA: If you read the article, MacDonald's is charged with having some legitimate culpability due to the temperatures of their coffee......which still doesn't remove responsibility from a coffee drinker to not spill it between their legs IMNSHO.

I do NOT mean to be too argumentative or abrasive, but I really do feel that all too many people on today's world want the rest of the world to protect them from their own stupid and self-destructive behavior.

We see the results of this in wasted legal fees, ridiculous settlements, and insurnce and health care costs every day.

I'm just tired of it because I hold myself to higher standards of responsibility for my own screwups so I resent it when the same isn't applied across the board and I have to pay through the nose for insurance because another company raises its rates to compensate for a loss.
03/18/2008 05:31:26 PM · #53
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

This is the second time in as many days that I've seen people here at DPC astounded by what has been around for years.

Someone started a thread yesterday about the foreign lottery scam, and now The Onion.

Both of these have been around for a loooooooooooooong time.

I would think that by March of 2008, people would be smart enough to at least Google something before they embarrass themselves by starting a thread on something like this.

How can you read the article and *not* know it's a spoof?????


Originally posted by kandykarml:

CALM DOWN..lol.. wow, even though it's March of 2008, I've never heard of the onion.. I'm truly sorry that I requested clarification on it's truthfullness.. I swear it, I'm not a total idiot..My better judgement told me there was no way this could be true, but people never cease to amaze me..My bad !!!

Did NOT mean to come across as anything but incredulous.....it seemed VERY outrageous to me in its wording.....and hilarious, I might add.

I *DO* get frustrated when someone wants to sue someone when they klutz out.......and then say whatever they fell over when they weren't paying attention is somehow dangerous.
03/18/2008 05:47:26 PM · #54
So ... that Onion. Pretty funny stuff, eh, Jeb? ;)
03/18/2008 07:51:06 PM · #55
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Okay, yes, it *IS* my opinion, but if that pperson would have thought at all about what they were doing, don't you think that the thought, "Gee, this coffee might be really hot and that might hurt a lot if I spill it in my crotch."

That's just common sense and survival that would make me think that.

That's one of the reasons I enjoy reading the Darwin Awards. Stupid people doing stupid things and paying the ultimate price for their stupidity.

;)
03/18/2008 07:56:03 PM · #56
Everyone knows that spoons make people fat and pens misspell words. Just ask the gun control freaks who believe guns cause murders when actually they reduce crime.

Message edited by author 2008-03-18 19:56:44.
03/18/2008 08:18:54 PM · #57
Originally posted by ShutterHack:

Everyone knows that spoons make people fat and pens misspell words. Just ask the gun control freaks who believe guns cause murders when actually they reduce crime.


Wow. Troll much?
03/18/2008 08:38:32 PM · #58
Originally posted by ShutterHack:

Just ask the gun control freaks who believe guns cause murders when actually they reduce crime.

Umm.....

I don't believe that guns kill people, I believe people kill people with guns.

I also don't believe guns reduce crime, people do.

A gun is an inanimate object.
03/18/2008 08:48:42 PM · #59
This seems to be going well... rofl

*waves Wii-impaired-limp-fist in impotent rage* Lighten up folks!
03/18/2008 08:51:02 PM · #60
Originally posted by rinac:

This seems to be going well... rofl

*waves Wii-impaired-limp-fist in impotent rage* Lighten up folks!

Don't make me pull out my Atari 2600 and kick your limp-wristed booty...
03/18/2008 08:55:22 PM · #61
Originally posted by _eug:

Originally posted by rinac:

This seems to be going well... rofl

*waves Wii-impaired-limp-fist in impotent rage* Lighten up folks!

Don't make me pull out my Atari 2600 and kick your limp-wristed booty...


No fair! I left my Atari to my dad when I left home, otherwise it would be game on ;P
03/18/2008 08:59:16 PM · #62
Originally posted by rinac:

This seems to be going well... rofl

*waves Wii-impaired-limp-fist in impotent rage* Lighten up folks!

Originally posted by _eug:

Don't make me pull out my Atari 2600 and kick your limp-wristed booty...

Originally posted by rinac:

No fair! I left my Atari to my dad when I left home, otherwise it would be game on ;P

You guys are OLD!!!

I miss Space Invaders! LOL!!!
03/18/2008 09:09:55 PM · #63
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

I miss Space Invaders! LOL!!!


Here ya go: Space Invaders
03/18/2008 09:32:17 PM · #64
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

You guys are OLD!!!

I've been telling myself that for 5 years. lol
03/18/2008 11:01:55 PM · #65
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Originally posted by rinac:

This seems to be going well... rofl

*waves Wii-impaired-limp-fist in impotent rage* Lighten up folks!

Originally posted by _eug:

Don't make me pull out my Atari 2600 and kick your limp-wristed booty...

Originally posted by rinac:

No fair! I left my Atari to my dad when I left home, otherwise it would be game on ;P

You guys are OLD!!!

I miss Space Invaders! LOL!!!


Space Invaders rocked my world. It's all been downhill from there. ;)
03/18/2008 11:48:25 PM · #66
Originally posted by shutterpuppy:

Space Invaders rocked my world. It's all been downhill from there. ;)


Not quite...but almost :)

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