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02/22/2008 09:26:06 AM · #1 |
In the B+W in Color challenge, there is a special rule that processing "to" black and white will result in a DQ. Does this mean that you cannot adjust the white balance, levels or curves or use other techniques (like a sepia tone) to enhance the B+W qualities in the image? Or does this just mean that you cannot desaturate the image or convert it to grayscale? I hope its the latter, but I fear it may be the former.
ETA: To be a bit more clear: The rules are a bit ambiguous on this point. The Challenge Description says that "Conversion/desaturation to black and white or shooting in black and white is NOT allowed." while the Extra Rules provide that "post-processing to black/white will result in DQ." The Extra Rule seems much broader than the challenge description, which is why I'm confused (that, and my general state of confusion of course).
Message edited by author 2008-02-22 09:30:04. |
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02/22/2008 09:29:10 AM · #2 |
Edited: Nevermind, question was not relevant for my shot. ;)
Message edited by author 2008-02-22 09:37:09. |
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02/22/2008 10:37:27 AM · #3 |
The description says 'Conversion/desaturation to black and white or shooting in black and white is NOT allowed'
Usually, you will not be DQ'd for not following the description.
The extra rule is there to state that for this challenge, not following the description IS a DQable offense. Meaning, if you do convert to black and white in post processing or shoot in B & W mode, you will be DQ'd.
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02/22/2008 10:38:59 AM · #4 |
you know what, that rule is confusing. more so than normal. I believe they are saying your subject must be black and white and your photo must be taken in color. meaning if you take a photo of a red and black checker board. you can not convert the red to white to get the black and white subject.
I may be wrong but this is what makes sense to me. I am sure others could add to the interp.
Message edited by author 2008-02-22 10:40:14. |
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02/22/2008 10:41:32 AM · #5 |
Also, I guess that you'd be DQ'd if you shoot in a mode such as Sepia, or convert to Sepia, as that's similar to desaturating.
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02/22/2008 10:43:39 AM · #6 |
I would imagine that rule is pretty dead set, Shoot in Color or else!
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
Also, I guess that you'd be DQ'd if you shoot in a mode such as Sepia, or convert to Sepia, as that's similar to desaturating. |
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02/22/2008 10:44:25 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
you know what, that rule is confusing. more so than normal. I believe they are saying your subject must be black and white and your photo must be taken in color. meaning if you take a photo of a red and black checker board. you can not convert the red to white to get the black and white subject.
I may be wrong but this is what makes sense to me. I am sure others could add to the interp. |
I think you're right. So if you shoot a grey city scene, but there are some red traffic lights in the scene, you are outta luck. But, if you look at the last time this challenge ran, Timfythetoo shot a B&W cat with yellow eyes and the voters didn't kick his DNMCing butt for that. Cheater, cheater, pumpkin-eater.
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02/22/2008 10:46:48 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
if you look at the last time this challenge ran, Timfythetoo shot a B&W cat with yellow eyes and the voters didn't kick his DNMCing butt for that. |
A dash of yellow eyes is a good way to "prove" to the voters that your image really is in color. |
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02/22/2008 10:47:41 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
if you look at the last time this challenge ran, Timfythetoo shot a B&W cat with yellow eyes and the voters didn't kick his DNMCing butt for that. |
A dash of yellow eyes is a good way to "prove" to the voters that your image really is in color. |
But then it isn't B&W. :-P
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02/22/2008 10:49:30 AM · #10 |
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02/22/2008 10:49:58 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
Originally posted by scalvert:
A dash of yellow eyes is a good way to "prove" to the voters that your image really is in color. |
But then it isn't B&W. :-P |
Shooting B&W in color will often leave some color in your B&W.
Message edited by author 2008-02-22 10:51:52. |
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02/22/2008 10:51:21 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by timfythetoo:
Na-na na-na nah! ;) |
LOL... :-D
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02/22/2008 10:51:26 AM · #13 |
lol I have a dark grey and white cat with yellow eyes.
Message edited by author 2008-02-22 10:52:59. |
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02/22/2008 10:52:50 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
lol I have a dark grey and white cat with yellow eyes. |
Ooooh... so close. Too bad it isn't black and white. ;-P |
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02/22/2008 10:53:31 AM · #15 |
with correct lighting skills and maybe a trick out of one of your bags I could pull it off. lol
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
lol I have a dark grey and white cat with yellow eyes. |
Ooooh... so close. Too bad it isn't black and white. ;-P |
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02/22/2008 10:54:34 AM · #16 |
| So how would I suspend this thing from the ceiling and make it look like it is reading a book? |
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02/22/2008 10:54:51 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
lol I have a dark grey and white cat with yellow eyes. |
Ooooh... so close. Too bad it isn't black and white. ;-P |
Does 'brown' fall into a greyscale? I don't think so. ;-)
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02/22/2008 10:55:18 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
Originally posted by scalvert:
A dash of yellow eyes is a good way to "prove" to the voters that your image really is in color. |
But then it isn't B&W. :-P |
Shooting B&W in color will often leave some color in your B&W. |
Only if the shooter is careless. ;-)
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02/22/2008 10:56:19 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
So how would I suspend this thing from the ceiling and make it look like it is reading a book? |
Hang a book from the ceiling, then sneak up behind him and bark really loud. |
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02/22/2008 10:58:08 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
So how would I suspend this thing from the ceiling and make it look like it is reading a book? |
Hang a book from the ceiling, then sneak up behind him and bark really loud. |
A book would be DNMC, as it's black & white & read all over.
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02/22/2008 11:01:06 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
A book would be DNMC, as it's black & white & read all over. |
So is a panda, if sufficiently embarrassed. |
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02/22/2008 11:01:20 AM · #22 |
| You know, my little girl wanted a Zebra for her birthday. I told her no. Oh the posibility |
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02/22/2008 11:03:04 AM · #23 |
That is sort of how I got the Boxing shot.
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
So how would I suspend this thing from the ceiling and make it look like it is reading a book? |
Hang a book from the ceiling, then sneak up behind him and bark really loud. |
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02/22/2008 11:03:27 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
You know, my little girl wanted a Zebra for her birthday. I told her no. Oh the posibility |
That would be much more difficult to hang from a ceiling. |
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02/22/2008 11:06:36 AM · #25 |
yeah and you wouldn't want to have to stand under it for any extended periods of time either.
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
You know, my little girl wanted a Zebra for her birthday. I told her no. Oh the posibility |
That would be much more difficult to hang from a ceiling. |
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