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02/13/2008 10:05:45 PM · #1 |
Did anyone else get this comment? I think one member in particular was passing them out like it was Halloween candy. In my case, it was probably a good point. I like to think that had I entered this in a Natural Light Portrait challenge, it would have done much better.
(Interesting thing about this entry, though, is that the score rose all week -- starting at around 4.2 and finishing at 5.0455.)
Here was my outtake. Even though the lower part of the face is out of focus and even overexposed to the right, I think that along with the tight crop, brings the viewer's attention to the eyes. Would this have been the better entry?
Comments are always welcome. Hugs and kisses...
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02/13/2008 11:06:23 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by bvy:
"This is a portrait, not an eye shot!" |
Both voters and photographers seemed to be split on this issue. I thought many of the eye closeups weren't very interesting compositions, but obviously others felt more like the person who left you that comment. It ended up being a low-scoring challenge, in part due to this difference of interpretation. |
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02/14/2008 07:29:59 AM · #3 |
Speaking personally, I would have given a higher score to the second photo here. It draws me into the eyes in a way that your submitted picture doesn't. If I had got to commenting on your submitted photo I would have asked you the question I asked a number of others - what to you gain by including all the face?
Of course my own entry was full face, so what do I know about anything!
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02/14/2008 07:59:26 AM · #4 |
If I were you, I'd be upset about it the comment too. If you had eyes in the photo, it met the challenge!!! Now the comments should have been more geared toward the technical quality of the photo from that point on. I think your photo was better than a five. Adding the whole face didn't take anything away from the photo whatsoever.
I'd have to say you got shafted on this photo. |
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02/14/2008 09:10:32 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by albc28:
If I were you, I'd be upset about it the comment too. |
Why? It's a comment; an opinion. Maybe if no comments had been left then that would be better? At least the photographer knows that for some (that had the guts to leave an honest opinion/comment) the photo wasn't in line with the challenge as they saw it.
Originally posted by albc28:
If you had eyes in the photo, it met the challenge!!! Now the comments should have been more geared toward the technical quality of the photo from that point on. |
I agree more could have been said in the comment, but asthetic value to the viewer is also a legitimate point to comment on. If we discarded all but the technical comments the comments left would be quite thin.
Originally posted by albc28:
Adding the whole face didn't take anything away from the photo whatsoever. |
That's a valid point that you could leave on a challenge entry. However, that's your opinion - doesn't have to be everyones.
Originally posted by albc28:
I'd have to say you got shafted on this photo. |
That's pretty strong ("shafted"), but again your POV. FWIW, I gave this a 6.
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02/15/2008 07:20:05 AM · #6 |
Thanks for all the great feedback. I was put off at first by the comment and the score -- I had some personal attachment to the subject (my son) so that was part of it. It's easier to be objective when your picture is a building.
I was very happy with the photo technically, so I was hoping the low score had more to do with how well it met (or didn't meet) the challenge. The fact that the score rose through the week makes me think that voters gradually relaxed their criteria somewhat on what exactly constituted an eye shot.
As far as the comment goes, there are very few comments that I don't find helpful. Even though it's not what I wanted to hear, it provided instant insight into my low score at the time. So in that sense it was very helpful.
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02/16/2008 12:08:53 PM · #7 |
I gave this shot a 7. I very much liked the pensive expression that, to me, highlighted his eyes. The photo is a bit dark with a reddish cast. Again, I felt like that just added to the mood. Your crop below the hairline helps draw the viewer's gaze upward from the face to his eyes. The shot is nicely focused, and the face & eyes are so strong you don't even see the harsh shadow on his neck. In fact, it helps serve as a frame for his face. On the emotive side, this shot makes me wonder who he is, and what he is thinking about. As a parent, you probably wonder the same things.
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02/16/2008 04:45:06 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by dtremain:
I gave this shot a 7. I very much liked the pensive expression that, to me, highlighted his eyes. The photo is a bit dark with a reddish cast. Again, I felt like that just added to the mood. Your crop below the hairline helps draw the viewer's gaze upward from the face to his eyes. The shot is nicely focused, and the face & eyes are so strong you don't even see the harsh shadow on his neck. In fact, it helps serve as a frame for his face. On the emotive side, this shot makes me wonder who he is, and what he is thinking about. As a parent, you probably wonder the same things. |
Excellent analysis. Thank you for taking the time. The shot was taken in front of a westward facing window at dusk. He's a boy of a million poses. He doesn't even have to try!
Incidentally, I really liked your Riveting shot. It finished right behind my entry in that challenge, so I'm quite used to seeing it next in line when I pull up that shot. Also, it looks like they were both personal bests for us at the time. |
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