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02/13/2008 01:24:27 PM · #1
I haven't really entered into any challenges lately and the ones I have didn't turn out as well as I hoped. Give me a break, I was new to photography. Had no idea what composition was. I didn't even know why ISO mattered nor did I know about white balance. So I have a few excuses up my sleeve. One other excuse is that I don't have a nice camera. I know that is not true cause there are people who got ribbons with the d50. So I have to motivate myself somehow. I am going to enter as many challenges as I can and will ONLY buy a d300 if I win a ribbon. Otherwise, the D300 can just fade away. Do you think this is going to motivate me enough?? Let's just hope so.

02/13/2008 01:31:01 PM · #2
Your camera should be thought of as a tool to achieve your artistic vision. Although it's nice to reward yourself with a big purchase, you shouldn't base your future successes on which camera you have. The D50 is certainly a very capable camera.

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02/13/2008 01:34:06 PM · #3
Fixed above, so this post is unnecessary.


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02/13/2008 01:40:14 PM · #4
The stats seem to suggest that the D50 is indeed a very capable camera as geoffb pointed out, I certainly love mine. I guess you have to bear in mind that it was released as a lower level, 'introductory' DSLR- so it doesnt have all the features readily available like the D300. However, if I had the money I would love to purchase the D300, its an incredible camera to be sure, but it doesnt negate that the D50 is still a great one for its price range and very capable of taking great pictures. I think of mine as a learning tool, and when i've learnt more and had more experience- then I can justify the D300 (or equivilent of the time) as a purchase.
02/13/2008 01:45:06 PM · #5
What can the D300 do that you can't do with the D50? What short comings in what YOU shoot are you finding with the D50?

IMO you should only upgrade your camera for an actual need not just because the other one has "better" features.

If you have a need for the additional features of a D300 then whether you win a challenge shouldn't make a difference because that doesn't change your need one way or another.

If I only drive the speed limit I don't need a Ferrari - know what I mean?
02/13/2008 01:59:42 PM · #6
Originally posted by geoffb:

Your camera should be thought of as a tool to achieve your artistic vision. Although it's nice to reward yourself with a bug purchase, you shouldn't base your future successes on which camera you have. The D50 is certainly a very capable camera.


I guess what is hidden in my plan is the amount of time it will take me to get a ribbon. From my perspective, by the time I get a ribbon it'll be another few months. And in the meantime I will have improved much more so and would be ready to use the d300 features perhaps. That was my initial goal. However, if by any chance, I will get a ribbon sooner than that it would be not be a good deal for me.
02/13/2008 02:02:56 PM · #7
Originally posted by Megatherian:

What can the D300 do that you can't do with the D50? What short comings in what YOU shoot are you finding with the D50?

IMO you should only upgrade your camera for an actual need not just because the other one has "better" features.

If you have a need for the additional features of a D300 then whether you win a challenge shouldn't make a difference because that doesn't change your need one way or another.

If I only drive the speed limit I don't need a Ferrari - know what I mean?


yea I know what you mean. But I do need the 12 MP because I want to print some large prints when I do take them. I also like to take some sport photography. Although the d50 is decent on that, I always fail to get a decent action photography. Those are probably the two features that I would need.

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02/13/2008 02:16:47 PM · #8
when you say you want to print large, then how large? The D50 can make pretty nice poster sized prints. I did a ballet poster a while back with a D70 (20X30 or some such size) and it got rave reviews - lots of parents wanted to buy them with no complaints about quality.

If you need faster FPS for sports then just get the camera, who cares if you win a ribbon or not ;)
02/13/2008 02:18:12 PM · #9
Originally posted by geoffb:

"...you shouldn't base your future successes on which camera you have."


I would be nothing without my D300 and the 70-200mm VR. A shell of a man and a photographer. j/k
02/13/2008 02:18:36 PM · #10
on the other hand, i have pledged to buy a d300 that absolute first minute that i can afford to spend the money on one, ribbon or not.

it's just so darn shiny!
02/13/2008 03:15:45 PM · #11
I can probably afford to buy the d300 within a month or so, but I want to put myself to work for that. I know I want that camera badly, but it would just be so much better if I develop my skills which kudzu already has and also get a ribbon. ;p And Mega, I want to be able to print poster size. 6 MP is decent, but there are times I wish the sensor on my camera was larger than it is now.
02/14/2008 10:31:50 AM · #12
Originally posted by Gotaka:

I can probably afford to buy the d300 within a month or so, but I want to put myself to work for that. I know I want that camera badly, but it would just be so much better if I develop my skills which kudzu already has and also get a ribbon. ;p And Mega, I want to be able to print poster size. 6 MP is decent, but there are times I wish the sensor on my camera was larger than it is now.


flattery will get you nowhere most places, but you do realize that i don't have a ribbon yet, right?

always a bridesmaid... *sob*
02/14/2008 10:51:15 AM · #13
I think it's cool that you set a goal for yourself. Frankly, I don't have that much self control. As soon as I was able to talk my wife into it, whooosh, I had pressed the order button :)

Like others have said, the D300 isn't going to make you a better photographer than you are with a D50. My nephew got a D50 last year, and it seems like a perfectly fine camera for learning the ropes and producing good results. Mastering composition, lighting techniques, being creative... these are all things that you can accomplish regardless of the camera, and those are the things that matter more than what kind of equipment you're using.
02/14/2008 11:00:28 AM · #14
The purpose of your presence here is to win virtual ribbons that tend to showcase status quo excellence?
Best of luck to you.
02/14/2008 12:22:47 PM · #15
IreneM Has had some good performance from her D-50


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02/15/2008 12:56:04 AM · #16
Originally posted by Bugzeye:

IreneM Has had some good performance from her D-50


That's true, it's one camera I will use till it dies on me. As for the 6 MP, my blue ribbon shot of the coffee/milk image was printed on a 6 x 4 metre piece of cloth for a Danish museum exhibition. It looked great, so I wouldn't worry about large prints being a problem.

On the other hand, I got to "play" with the brand new D300 of an office colleague last week and it is one SWEET camera to use.

I like the idea that you set yourself a goal before buying the new cam. Good luck.
02/15/2008 01:37:30 AM · #17
I guess what is hidden in my plan is the amount of time it will take me to get a ribbon. From my perspective, by the time I get a ribbon it'll be another few months.

Got to love that optimism. I've been here a year and have come close to a ribbon only once.

02/15/2008 01:41:44 AM · #18
I really think you're putting too much merit into something as superficial as ribbon.gif.
02/15/2008 01:43:22 AM · #19
Who, me or the op?
02/15/2008 01:44:49 AM · #20
Originally posted by Monique64:

Who, me or the op?


op :-D


02/15/2008 01:46:41 AM · #21
If you have the money go get it, otherwise learn with the d50 as it is a fantastic camera to learn on. IMO if you are learning you will be wasting your money on the D300. Again as for large prints you get about the same quality out of 6mp as film. That is an arguable statement but what the hell. I have also seen billboards done with a 2mp P&S so that shoots that out the window. The D50 should and will do fine with sports you just need to learn to shoot those sports, once your ability has grown so will your camera. As for me the D300 isn't really woth the investment above the D200 for me, hence I'm waiting for money to come in and then its all D3 for me.

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02/15/2008 07:18:14 AM · #22
I think it's great that you set yourself goals.

I just upgraded from a D50 to a D200. I don't expect to become a better photographer, but there were a few features I really wanted that just weren't available on the D50. And while I may not make better photos, there are a few photos that I'll get with the D200 that I wouldn't have gotten with the D50 due to where the controls are (D200 has much more stuff that isn't in the menus. A real bonus for me).

The real trick with the upgrade is that now I have to actually learn all the new features. But that's part of the fun for me.
02/15/2008 12:56:08 PM · #23
Originally posted by IreneM:

Originally posted by Bugzeye:

IreneM Has had some good performance from her D-50


That's true, it's one camera I will use till it dies on me. As for the 6 MP, my blue ribbon shot of the coffee/milk image was printed on a 6 x 4 metre piece of cloth for a Danish museum exhibition. It looked great, so I wouldn't worry about large prints being a problem.

On the other hand, I got to "play" with the brand new D300 of an office colleague last week and it is one SWEET camera to use.

I like the idea that you set yourself a goal before buying the new cam. Good luck.


Thanks Irene. I love your profile, there are lots of really good images.
02/15/2008 12:56:37 PM · #24
Originally posted by Monique64:

I guess what is hidden in my plan is the amount of time it will take me to get a ribbon. From my perspective, by the time I get a ribbon it'll be another few months.

Got to love that optimism. I've been here a year and have come close to a ribbon only once.


Haha. You have to be optimistic about life to achieve something ;p
02/15/2008 12:59:11 PM · #25
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

I really think you're putting too much merit into something as superficial as ribbon.gif.


Footman, It represents that you have worked hard and learned something new. Believe me, those ribbon takers are very good photographers. When I look at the challenge results every week, it intrigues me. How do they come up with these ideas? Now, one or two people might get a ribbon here and there, but the vast majority of ribbon takers are putting a lot of effort into the challenge. I wouldn't dismiss them as "superficial.'
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