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01/27/2008 09:24:09 AM · #1 |
I tried to post this on another forum community but no one seems to have any thoughts on it, so I thought I'd try here.
I've never done much "people" shooting until the last year or so. So, I haven't really looked around for too many guidelines or any common courtesy basics. I understand when forms are signed, and the photographer holds copyright they can do whatever they want with them.
But what about public events? Specifically high school kids? A friend of mine teaches/coaches a high school dance team and I went to see their performances a few times. Because I don't get to do much more than work these days, all the shiny uniforms and motion was of course too much for me to contain and I started shooting. There are paid photographers at these things (ok, large sports companies that get to sit in the front row) and I didn't know a single person there except the one coach. I'm not saying I have anything brilliant or a ton of useful shots, but I have several I'd like to put out there in my albums online. I just started using Flickr and would like to put some there as well.
So here's my dilemma, I'm really struggling with whether its appropriate to even put some of these up for a few reasons. 1 - They're young girls in spandex with the skirt that flies up at every move. 2 - Some of the pictures there's a very clear, recognizable face. Again, young girls. And 3 - sometimes with those flappy skirts, there's even a tiny portion of *pardon me* butt cheek obviously visible (of course this happens on some of the different angles). Finally, 4 - to me, these things are about the motion, the fluidity, color, action.. not all about the faces. So, to sort of experiment with that thought, I purposely cut off a lot of heads here and there, shooting from the collar bone down only. But I realized when I got home, this may not be appreciated everywhere. These are young girls with absolutely unforgiving uniforms and legs flying in the air.
Ok, that got much longer than I intended. Point is, where do the unwritten guidelines lay with public high school events such as dance meets or even league sports like basketball or volleyball? Should I be worried about using any of these that have clear faces or non-casual angles? Or am I just being too cautious/paranoid?
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01/27/2008 09:57:25 AM · #2 |
Originally posted by Picts82:
... I've never done much "people" shooting until the last year or so. So, I haven't really looked around for too many guidelines or any common courtesy basics. I understand when forms are signed, and the photographer holds copyright they can do whatever they want with them.
... Point is, where do the unwritten guidelines lay with public high school events such as dance meets or even league sports like basketball or volleyball? Should I be worried about using any of these that have clear faces or non-casual angles? Or am I just being too cautious/paranoid? |
Sounds like you're aware of proper use of images for sale (stock use, etc...), and the main concern is an ethical one - yes?
On legal ground I'm pretty sure you can post the photos without concern if the event was public and it wasn't a special event where restrictions were given out (i.e. - on the ticket, brochure, flyer, etc...).
In reading your post it sounds like, based on points 1-3, you aren't comfortable posting the photos. If it was me, that would be my deciding factor. If it didn't feel right, then I wouldn't do it. Much easier to sleep that way. :-)
However, it does sound like you're aware of which photos may be inappropriate in your own mind...if you have some that depict the color and motion without running into concerns in point 1-3, then go ahead and show them.
That's just my take on it, and I tend to be quite conservative. :-P
I smiled at this part of your post:
Originally posted by Picts82:
... all the shiny uniforms and motion was of course too much for me to contain and I started shooting. |
Been there, done that, for sure. :)
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01/27/2008 01:10:22 PM · #3 |
you're pretty much free to put whatever you want online. it's only when someone tries to make commercial use of an image (ie, for advertising, marketing, or as part of a commercial, non-editorial, non-educational product) that you need to worry about having model releases.
as far as "pardon-me" shots, use your best judgement. obviously, it's not your intent to embarass anyone, but, by the same token, if parents don't want 'inappropriate' images of their children taken and posted on the internet, they shouldn't let them go out in public and expose themselves inappropriately. it's not that the exposure is intentional (like girls getting drunk and having a girls-gone-wild moment), but the girls and their parents know going into things like gymnastics, dance, swim, etc. that there is the potential for that type of exposure. it goes with the territory. however, if you do post something that someone takes umbrage with, it's usually best to simply acquiesce, rather than make a federal case out of it.
along those lines, you might want to check out bert krages's book on photographer's legal rights. here's a link to a review that has a link to his site. |
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01/29/2008 08:21:49 AM · #4 |
Thank you for your thoughts on the matter :) I appreciate hearing what others think about it. I think I'm comfortable with posting most of them and won't worry about the faces at this point. I'm not selling them or anything of the sort so no worries on that end. Thanks for your input!
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