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01/22/2008 09:23:41 PM · #1 |
The question is:
Can I replace everything with similar gear just in Nikon and not spend any extra cash? Also list me some Nikon gear that would be similar.
Here is my gear:
Canon EOS-30D
Canon EOS-20D
Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon X 2(yes I have two of these)
Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM
Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM
Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM
Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM II
Canon 430EX Speedlite
Canon ST-E2 Wireless trigger
I am either going to replace it or just sell it all and keep the money but I wanted to know before I decided. Been thinking the last few days and was wondering if this may be possible?
Any Nikonians wanna help?
Message edited by author 2008-01-22 21:52:51.
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01/22/2008 09:25:48 PM · #2 |
why are you switching?
-cw
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01/22/2008 09:40:26 PM · #3 |
| i could probably help you get rid of a couple of those items. |
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01/22/2008 10:55:07 PM · #4 |
Pick up a new D80 and a used one if you need a backup.
SB-800 for your flash. It will use the internal IR wireless built into the D80's. A replacement for the 70-200 F4 L usm doesn't exist in Nikon. There is a 70-200 constant F4 available on the used market but it is the slower focusing AF-D. It will price slightly less than the Canon used.
Nikkor 85mm F1.8 about the same price, especially used.
Nikkor 12-24 F4.0 is very expensive 700 used to 1000 new.
Sigma for Nikon 10-20 F3.5 to 4.5 I believe would be 500 new.
As for the Tamron 28-70s they should be available for about the same price for Nikon.
But..... why change brands? There are going to be things you don't like about Nikon. Isn't it better the devil you know?
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01/22/2008 11:02:45 PM · #5 |
The one thing i would suggest on the 70-200, would be the sigma 70-200mm 2.8 . I have it and have been absolutely satisfied, quick af, hsm is quite nice, very sharp (maybe not quite as sharp as the L glass... but its 2.8), gained stop of aperture. I got a brand new macro one on ebay for $492 (its on Sigmas site for $1200). Also you could get a tokina 12-24 for your wide angle, I have also been quite satisfied with that one.
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01/22/2008 11:07:47 PM · #6 |
Today I saw D300 photo with ISO 2000 That's 2 thousand) and I tell ya, I NEED that kind of machine for weddings... It is only $1,600 range. I have not seeing any big Canon photos with that kind of ISO but this was very impressive :) For the future, I might switch too, but this is only a thought.
I love my Rebel for now, even it gives me pretty cool grains at ISO 800 :P |
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01/22/2008 11:10:33 PM · #7 |
I switched.
I mainly switched to reduce my lens compliment and get the 18-200 VR as my main lens.
I bought the Sigma 10-20 to replace my Canon 10-22. The Sigma is nice and sharp, but I think it has a lot more noticeable distortion at 10. That could be in part because the Nikon has a 1.5x crop factor, so I'm using 15mm rather than 16. But I notice the distortion doesn't really get better until about 12mm.
Of course, that's a subjective assessment. I didn't shoot the same scene head to head with both. But I used my Canon 10-22 a lot, and now starting to use my new Sigma, I'm seeing issues I didn't see in normal shooting with the Canon.
I love the D80, but there are definitely some reservations compared to the other models and the Canon. For me, the biggest is that it refocuses on every shot when you shoot a burst of three shots with bracketing. That means you can't simply lock focus on the first exposure and then let it burst.
I'm told the D200 doesn't have that problem (which Nikon says is there by design, but why do it differently than the D200?)
Otherwise, I like the way the Nikon handles, the viewfinder is very bright and the gridlines help to align things and keep the camera level.
I love the 18-200 lens, but it also has more distortion at 18 than I'm used to with the Sigma 18-125. But it's a lot better lens all around than the Sigma (which I actually liked, so I can safely say I "love" the Nikon 18-200.)
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01/22/2008 11:15:14 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by nshapiro:
For me, the biggest is that it refocuses on every shot when you shoot a burst of three shots with bracketing. That means you can't simply lock focus on the first exposure and then let it burst.
I'm told the D200 doesn't have that problem (which Nikon says is there by design, but why do it differently than the D200?)
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That seems rather odd... theres no custom setting to change that?
I suppose you can just focus then flip it to manual... |
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01/22/2008 11:21:02 PM · #9 |
Why switch?
I don't see the point. In general nikon lenses cost a little more than canon. |
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01/23/2008 12:05:05 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by nshapiro:
I love the D80, but there are definitely some reservations compared to the other models and the Canon. For me, the biggest is that it refocuses on every shot when you shoot a burst of three shots with bracketing. That means you can't simply lock focus on the first exposure and then let it burst. |
Originally posted by //www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d80/users-guide/controls.htm:
AF and Green Dot Button
This sets the autofocus mode. You can tap it to cycle through the settings, or hold it and spin the rear dial.
AF-A, the default I use, magically selects between the next two modes.
AF-S stands for AF-Single. The D80 focuses once, then locks AF for you to recompose and shoot.
AF-C stands for AF-Continuous. The D80 keeps focusing as the subject moves. Use this for sports and vehicles in motion, like cars, birds and aircraft. |
Are you on AF-C mode? Try AF-S mode. |
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01/23/2008 01:21:56 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by chris48083:
why are you switching?
-cw |
I'm wondering this myself and since rex has not replied yet, I'm going to see if I can guess why...
Originally posted by One of those imaginary dream bubble things over Art's head:
It all started when Rex went hiking with his dog. They were traversing some steep trails and suddenly the dog slipped down the side of a cliff, but managed to cling to a narrow ledge with just his front paws. Rex extended his hand down, but could not reach him. Then Rex pulled his 30D from his backpack thinking he might use the neckstrap to reach the dog as he held the camera in his hand dangling the neckstrap down, rex changed his mind and decided it would be smarter to risk losing the 20D instead. He set the 30D down on the ground and fumbled for his backup camera and did manage to lower its neckstrap down to the dog. The dog latched on tight with his powerful jaws - it look like he would be saved! Then, as fate would have it and for no apparent reason, the flash on his nearby 30D fired, startling both rex and the dog. As rex flinched, the jerking caused the neckstrap to break loose and the poor dog fell to his death. Rex was devastated! And he vowed never again to use Canon equipment. |
That's my theory anyway. |
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01/23/2008 10:27:59 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Originally posted by chris48083:
why are you switching?
-cw |
I'm wondering this myself and since rex has not replied yet, I'm going to see if I can guess why...
Originally posted by One of those imaginary dream bubble things over Art's head:
It all started when Rex went hiking with his dog. They were traversing some steep trails and suddenly the dog slipped down the side of a cliff, but managed to cling to a narrow ledge with just his front paws. Rex extended his hand down, but could not reach him. Then Rex pulled his 30D from his backpack thinking he might use the neckstrap to reach the dog as he held the camera in his hand dangling the neckstrap down, rex changed his mind and decided it would be smarter to risk losing the 20D instead. He set the 30D down on the ground and fumbled for his backup camera and did manage to lower its neckstrap down to the dog. The dog latched on tight with his powerful jaws - it look like he would be saved! Then, as fate would have it and for no apparent reason, the flash on his nearby 30D fired, startling both rex and the dog. As rex flinched, the jerking caused the neckstrap to break loose and the poor dog fell to his death. Rex was devastated! And he vowed never again to use Canon equipment. |
That's my theory anyway. |
thats what i hear too, poor guy
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01/23/2008 10:48:47 AM · #13 |
If your just dead set on changing...I'd suggest either renting or (if possible) borrowing the Nikon you are considering to see just what you think first.
I'm being sensible....gawd, I hate thaT!!!!! :P
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01/23/2008 11:05:18 AM · #14 |
Don't switch unless there's a very special reason to do so. With a few minor tweaks in specs, here and there, it's basically all the same. Like nshapiro said, he wanted the 18-200 VR a primarly lens, a good reason but if you really like to shoot super wide angle that Canon 10-22 is a killer, which is a good reason to stick.
Looking over your list I'd suggest buying/trading for some faster Canon glass. Like the 70-200mm 2.8 IS.
That lens alone will make you rethink life itself...
Message edited by author 2008-01-23 11:12:21. |
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01/23/2008 11:06:19 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by rex:
The question is:
Can I replace everything with similar gear just in Nikon and not spend any extra cash? Also list me some Nikon gear that would be similar.
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The answer is:
No.
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01/23/2008 11:36:02 AM · #16 |
No reason for the switch just wondering if I could do it. I am actually talking to a guy about a possible trade for his 70-200mm f/2.8 lens
Gonna lose a lens and flash but it may be worth it.
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01/23/2008 11:42:29 AM · #17 |
I use the 18-70 DX Nikon zoom a lot, as it is my walkabout and sunset lens most of the time. I have a lot of other lenses as well, and the 70-300 D ED compliments the 18-70 nicely if I just want to take 2 lenses when I am walking or driving somewhere. Almost all of my other lenses are 70's manual focus Nikkors, which I enjoy using, even though I have to focus and guess settings for EV with it. I bought a couple of them at pawn shops, and all the others came from flea bay sales. My favs of the bunch are the 16 fisheye, the 180, 2.8 ED, and the 300, 4.5 ED IF followed closely by the Micro Nikkor 55, 2.8. I'm not flush with cash enough to get all the whiz bang lenses like the VR series, so I can't tell you much about how they are. There is an excellent website by Bjorn Rorslett, a full time shooter who posts his ratings and evaluations of most of the Nikon lenses, which I have found to be very much on the mark so far. He evaluates lenses by shooting in the real world and looking at the results with a very critical eye instead of a lot of mumbo jumbo about a lot of abstract numbers.
Good luck with your planned change over, and I hope that you make the right decision. I use the older Fuji S3, and love the color and dynamic range detail that the Fuji sensor delivers. If I switch, it will be to the Fuji S5, for the better electronics and to get metering with the old lenses. The burst speed is slow, but it does my kind of shooting very well.
Here's Bjorn's evaluations link. Naturfotograf/ Bjorn R.
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01/23/2008 11:54:27 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by rex:
No reason for the switch just wondering if I could do it. I am actually talking to a guy about a possible trade for his 70-200mm f/2.8 lens
Gonna lose a lens and flash but it may be worth it. |
Good move.
Ask any canon user that owns one and I'm 100% certain they'll tell you it's one their best/favorites. |
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01/23/2008 12:27:47 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by option:
Originally posted by nshapiro:
For me, the biggest is that it refocuses on every shot when you shoot a burst of three shots with bracketing. That means you can't simply lock focus on the first exposure and then let it burst.
I'm told the D200 doesn't have that problem (which Nikon says is there by design, but why do it differently than the D200?)
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That seems rather odd... theres no custom setting to change that?
I suppose you can just focus then flip it to manual... |
I can shoot multiple frames on my D70s without it refocusing, I just have to keep the shutter button halfway pressed between shots. It takes a careful touch but I've done it successfully. Haven't specifically tried that while using bracketing but I'd be surprised if it works differently just because of that ... oh, and I'd be surprised if the D80 was different than the D70s in that regard. |
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01/23/2008 09:53:45 PM · #20 |
Bump : ) Any more opinions, advice ?
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01/24/2008 12:34:02 AM · #21 |
I'd just like to say how refreshing to see multiple Nikon owners saying "don't switch without a good reason." And you can add me to the list. :)
As for the 70-200 VR 2.8, I LOVE it. It's really just magic. So if you can get the Canon equivalent, do!
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