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01/07/2008 07:41:51 PM · #1
Hey fellow DPC'ers,

I need your help! This may seem a little long but hang in there!

Every year Ecce Signum and I set eachother 5 achieveable goals for the coming year. My first point this year goes as follows...

1. Over the next 3 months you will learn 3 distinct photoshop skills. Throughout January you need to photograph (or find in your portfolio) 3 images that will benefit from Dodging and burning. In order to successfully pass this pledge you should submit the original and photoshopped images to DPC for input from your peers. Whilst you just need to submit all 3 by the end of January one every 10 days will better show your improvement with this skill. You may get help from any source but your submissions must be your own work.

I also have to take a shot for the January Free Study and that must contain some Dodging and Burning (it's allowed isn't it?)

Here's where you guys come in. I have PS CS2 and can just about do the VERY basics. I am looking for someone willing to give me some 'tutoring' over the next few weeks to help me get to grips with the whole dodging and burning thing. I have in the past tried reading tutorials but I just seem to get lost and end up giving up. I have Skype so either a voice conversation or typed conversation would be the best for me but am open to any help you guys maybe willing to offer.

So, can you help me?
01/07/2008 07:57:05 PM · #2
I don't know if I can tutor you but this is how I set up my photos for dodge and burn.
In CS2 I use two layers, here it is from top to bottom.
Duplicate the image and set to 50% opacity
  If in color, change the opacity to Luminosity, it helps it keep its color when

aggressively dodging and burning.
If in black and white I leave it in normal mode

Layer below that is the original image.
I set the opacity of the dodge and burn to around 3-5% and go for it.
I like this set up because I can then play with the level of the opacity if I over or under do it, to play with the strength of the effect.

Some of my favorite things to dodge and burn are skies with clouds and wood. :)
Good luck!

Message edited by author 2008-01-07 19:57:20.
01/07/2008 08:11:43 PM · #3
Thanks Joe, it's late here in the UK but I'll be giving this a try tomorrow morning!
01/07/2008 08:12:10 PM · #4
If in color, change the opacity to Luminosity, it helps it keep its color when
aggressively dodging and burning.


That, I did not know, nice tip and I'll have to give that a try.
01/07/2008 08:15:47 PM · #5
I tend to use curves to dodge and burn rather than the actual dodge and burn tools since it is non-destructive and gives me more flexibility in my workflow. Basically what I do is use two or more curve adjustment layers, one set to darken the whole image and another to brighten the whole image. I then use the layer masks and apply it in the areas I wish to dodge and burn. The fact that these dodge and burn effects are on their own layer, with no pixel information, it gives me greater flexibility to tweak afterwards. Plus it saves me on having extra pixel layers.

Message edited by author 2008-01-07 20:16:56.
01/07/2008 08:16:06 PM · #6
Originally posted by trevytrev:

If in color, change the opacity to Luminosity, it helps it keep its color when
aggressively dodging and burning.


That, I did not know, nice tip and I'll have to give that a try.


Always leave colour alone but will try this - thanks :)

And Talj glad to see you are starting this 'goal' and looking forward to the results :)
01/07/2008 08:16:23 PM · #7
Originally posted by trevytrev:

If in color, change the opacity to Luminosity, it helps it keep its color when
aggressively dodging and burning.


That, I did not know, nice tip and I'll have to give that a try.

You can still lose color to black but it helps some and its never hurt. :)
I am sure some others will chime in. Pedro made a really nice tutorial too, I use some of those techniques also, espcially the low opacity, mulitple passes of a dodge and burn
01/07/2008 08:31:00 PM · #8
Make two new layers, set mode to overlay, check the box to Fill With Neutral Gray or whatever it is that appears. Call one Dodge, call one Burn. Set the opacity to 50% or whatever you like.

Paint with white on the Dodge layer, paint with Black on the burn layer using the paintbrush. Can adjust opacity of the brush itself if you like.

Works better than the built-in d/b tools imo, plus it's on separate layers so you can use the eraser, toggle them on/off, etc, etc.
01/07/2008 09:11:49 PM · #9
Originally posted by routerguy666:

Make two new layers, set mode to overlay, check the box to Fill With Neutral Gray or whatever it is that appears. Call one Dodge, call one Burn. Set the opacity to 50% or whatever you like.

Paint with white on the Dodge layer, paint with Black on the burn layer using the paintbrush. Can adjust opacity of the brush itself if you like.

Works better than the built-in d/b tools imo, plus it's on separate layers so you can use the eraser, toggle them on/off, etc, etc.

Soft Light mode works too, but is a little more subtle than Overlay mode. I tend to use Soft Light more.
01/10/2008 03:39:30 PM · #10
Originally posted by JuliBoc:

Originally posted by routerguy666:

Make two new layers, set mode to overlay, check the box to Fill With Neutral Gray or whatever it is that appears. Call one Dodge, call one Burn. Set the opacity to 50% or whatever you like.

Paint with white on the Dodge layer, paint with Black on the burn layer using the paintbrush. Can adjust opacity of the brush itself if you like.

Works better than the built-in d/b tools imo, plus it's on separate layers so you can use the eraser, toggle them on/off, etc, etc.

Soft Light mode works too, but is a little more subtle than Overlay mode. I tend to use Soft Light more.

I have tried this method too, and I have heard many people do it this way. The one thing that I don't think it does is allow you to choose if you want to choose to work on highlights, midtones or shadows. Am I missing something? In the end I think it just comes down to what gets you the results in your head, but its always good to see new techniques. :)
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