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01/06/2008 12:43:07 AM · #1
i posted this photo in a side challenge and it was suggested that i do some dodging and burning. i'd really aprpeciate it if i could get a couple of comment on what i did and/or what i could have done different (better).

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after

01/06/2008 12:50:38 AM · #2
I would definitely give it a new sky.
01/06/2008 01:02:09 AM · #3
here's my rendition using current sky and lots of burning.



Frankly, my suggestion is to re-compose without the trees crossing so much of the mountains. When you find a good spot that showcases the range well (stream to lead the eye, perhaps?) Wait for some good clouds at sunrise or sunset and get a killer shot.
01/06/2008 01:05:24 AM · #4
I think taking the shot at a different angle or another view point would of helped out alot because the trees block out most of the mountain.
01/06/2008 01:08:21 AM · #5
Originally posted by superdave:

I think taking the shot at a different angle or another view point would of helped out alot because the trees block out most of the mountain.


yep, you've broken the cardinal landscape sin. you're "kissing" edges in foreground and background elements. what you need to do is either have the trees really close and surrounding/framing the scene, or marginalize them because it's distorting the distance perspective to have them technically the same size to the eye.
01/06/2008 12:00:55 PM · #6
thanks for the suggestions. things i will keep in mind next time i'm over that way. i took it from the side of the road where i pulled over because i was lost and had to call someone to get me back on track.

also i would like to know if the 2nd photo is an improvement over the original. i would like to know if i'm able to apply the suggestions that are made effectively. i just learned about dodging and burning from beetle. now i have to see if i can find out how to create a new sky... lol

Message edited by author 2008-01-06 12:03:00.
01/06/2008 12:58:05 PM · #7
Here's my quick take on it:



1. Dupe BG layer and run shadow/highlight, using all 3 variables in both fields to balance things out as best possible.

2. New, empty layer set to multiply, drag a dark blue-t0-transparent gradient down from top of sky

3. New layer in overlay mode with neutral gray color selected, drab a black-to-transparent gradient up from bottom to just above fence (this is "burning" non destructively) then fade layer so it looks best

4. Hue/Saturation adjustment layer, with the reds desaturated a bit and darkened as well.

R.

ETA: I didn't want to work from the already-processed one you showed with the posts cloned out, nor did I take the time to clone them myself :-) Also, yes the second version is an improvement over the first. My gradient layers are a more sophisticated way of doing overall burning (as opposed to spot burning, but you'd do that on the same kind of layer specified in 3 above, using a black brush to burn and a white brush to dodge).

Message edited by author 2008-01-06 13:01:07.
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