How do I set speed to 1/500s in flash mode

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 24-85mm f2.8-4.0D

11/03/2007 07:13:30 PM · #1

I have a D200 and using a SB800 in remote with on camera control. My max limit is 1/250s.
I set the Flash Sync Speed to 1/250 (Auto FP)
I want to take a macro of something moving and therefore would like more than 1/250s. Can I set the speed higher. Say 1/500s?

Nikolai1024

Nikon D300

11/03/2007 07:28:04 PM · #2

Buy D70. Your top speed is 1/250 unless you go in FP mode.

alfresco

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

11/03/2007 09:20:15 PM · #3

Worth a try since it worked for me just one hour ago, albeit with the sb600

On the 200, in the flash menu,when you set commander mode, you get to the screen to adjust the output levels of the various flashes ... turn off the on-board flash.

The on-board flash will still flash to control the 800.

11/03/2007 09:58:00 PM · #4

Pardon my ignorance but I have been reading this manual until I am cross-eyed. I have the SB800 in SU-4 mode. Set it on camera and then removed while powered on. Set built-in to commander mode.
Builtin TTL 0
Group A TTL 0
Group B TTL 0
Channel 1 CH

Camera set to Manual F20, 250x or 250 and that's as high as it goes.
Any ideas what I am missing?

Thanks

11/03/2007 09:59:49 PM · #5

Originally posted by wronp:

You'll have to be in manual mode (although perhaps aperture or shutter priority mode will work, too).

11/03/2007 10:04:48 PM · #6

Originally posted by wronp:

Put it in remote mode, not SU-4 mode (although theoretically, I think that should work, too).

Make sure the strobe is set on the same channel (in this case, channel 1).

Message edited by author 2007-11-03 22:05:34.

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

11/03/2007 10:14:39 PM · #7

The remote connection is working. However, the camera speed has a maximum of 1/250s. I am trying to capture something that is falling and need the speed closer to 1/500s. I've tried with the speedlight on and off the camera but so far am kept within the 1/250s limit.

cpanaioti

Canon EOS-40D

11/03/2007 10:16:55 PM · #8

High speed synch?

11/03/2007 10:16:58 PM · #9

Originally posted by geoffb:

Originally posted by wronp:
Pardon my ignorance but I have been reading this manual until I am cross-eyed. I have the SB800 in SU-4 mode. Set it on camera and then removed while powered on. Set built-in to commander mode.
Builtin TTL 0
Group A TTL 0
Group B TTL 0
Channel 1 CH

Camera set to Manual F20, 250x or 250 and that's as high as it goes.
Any ideas what I am missing?

Thanks

Put it in remote mode, not SU-4 mode (although theoretically, I think that should work, too).

Make sure the strobe is set on the same channel (in this case, channel 1).

Yep. Remote and SU-4 work as far as the connection goes. Still limited on shutter speed though.

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

11/03/2007 10:17:48 PM · #10

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

High speed synch?

I don't know. How do I tell?

cpanaioti

Canon EOS-40D

11/03/2007 10:19:23 PM · #11

Originally posted by wronp:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:
High speed synch?

I don't know. How do I tell?

There should be a setting in one of the camera menus and possibly on the flash.

You'll have to check the manuals (flash and camera) for details to see how to set it.

Check out this article: //www.rpphoto.com/howto/view.asp?articleID=1026

Message edited by author 2007-11-03 22:20:55.

11/03/2007 10:22:07 PM · #12

Originally posted by wronp:

Originally posted by cpanaioti:
High speed synch?

I don't know. How do I tell?

You already said in your first post that you set the camera to high speed sync (Auto FP). Is that not the case, because you need to do this for shutter speeds faster than 1/250 to work.

Carl Zeiss 50mm ZE f/1.4 Planar T for Canon

11/03/2007 10:22:52 PM · #13

Originally posted by wronp:

What mode are you in? If it's program (P) mode, I don't think this will work.

yanko

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

11/03/2007 10:24:05 PM · #14

You need to set the SB800 to FP mode. I'm not familiar with it but you should have some button that changes the flash mode. Just cycle through the different flash modes until you get something that says "FP".

ETA: I use a canon 20D with Sigma flash and for that I set the flash to FP mode and then it allows my camera to set a shutter speed faster than 1/250. If I don't set the flash to FP then the camera won't let me choose the faster speed. Not sure if that's how it works with the Nikon but it might be the same thing.

Message edited by author 2007-11-03 22:26:01.

Carl Zeiss 50mm ZE f/1.4 Planar T for Canon

11/03/2007 10:28:41 PM · #15

Originally posted by yanko:

FP mode is set automatically on the SB-800 when the camera is set to Auto FP mode. Nothing is required on the flash itself.

yanko

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

11/03/2007 10:33:10 PM · #16

Originally posted by geoffb:

Originally posted by yanko:
You need to set the SB800 to FP mode. I'm not familiar with it but you should have some button that changes the flash mode. Just cycle through the different flash modes until you get something that says "FP".

ETA: I use a canon 20D with Sigma flash and for that I set the flash to FP mode and then it allows my camera to set a shutter speed faster than 1/250. If I don't set the flash to FP then the camera won't let me choose the faster speed. Not sure if that's how it works with the Nikon but it might be the same thing.

FP mode is set automatically on the SB-800 when the camera is set to Auto FP mode. Nothing is required on the flash itself.

Ah ok. I wish my canon was like that.

11/03/2007 10:34:44 PM · #17

Originally posted by yanko:

I wish my canon was like that.

11/03/2007 10:36:16 PM · #18

From all of this I think I should be able to set higher than 1/250.
Camera is at 1/250 Auto FP
Flash has been tried in both Remote Channel 1 and SU-4 (set from the camera and removed) modes.
I am shooting in Manual mode, F20.

There is probably something very simple that I am overlooking but for the life of me I can't find it.

11/03/2007 10:39:47 PM · #19

Originally posted by wronp:

In manual mode, with aperture set to f/20, what is preventing you from taking the picture? Are you unable to adjust the shutter speed faster than 1/250, or are you able to but then are unable to take a picture?

11/03/2007 10:41:12 PM · #20

Another clue...

I turned off the camera and flash. Connected the flash. Turned everything back on and set the flash to remote. Checked the Auto FP mode on the camera and then checked the speed and was able to set the higher speed.
However, when I remove the flash from the camera the speed is again limited to 1/250.

11/03/2007 10:41:57 PM · #21

Originally posted by geoffb:

Originally posted by wronp:
From all of this I think I should be able to set higher than 1/250.
Camera is at 1/250 Auto FP
Flash has been tried in both Remote Channel 1 and SU-4 (set from the camera and removed) modes.
I am shooting in Manual mode, F20.

There is probably something very simple that I am overlooking but for the life of me I can't find it.

In manual mode, with aperture set to f/20, what is preventing you from taking the picture? Are you unable to adjust the shutter speed faster than 1/250, or are you able to but then are unable to take a picture?

I am unable to get the camera to set anything higher than 1/250.

Nikon NIKKOR Z 24-120 f/4 S

11/03/2007 10:43:24 PM · #22

Originally posted by wronp:

Originally posted by geoffb:

Originally posted by wronp:
From all of this I think I should be able to set higher than 1/250.
Camera is at 1/250 Auto FP
Flash has been tried in both Remote Channel 1 and SU-4 (set from the camera and removed) modes.
I am shooting in Manual mode, F20.

There is probably something very simple that I am overlooking but for the life of me I can't find it.

In manual mode, with aperture set to f/20, what is preventing you from taking the picture? Are you unable to adjust the shutter speed faster than 1/250, or are you able to but then are unable to take a picture?

I am unable to get the camera to set anything higher than 1/250.

This might be a stupid question, but I'm trying to exhaust all the options here. Are you going in the longer shutter direction--toward and past bulb--to the x250 shutter speed?

ericwoo

Nikon Z7II

11/03/2007 10:46:23 PM · #23

Not too familiar with the D200, but does is allow you to set it as the master flash? If so, set the channels to coincide, set the camera's sync speed to 1/250 (auto FP) and that should do it.

cpanaioti

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

11/03/2007 10:48:57 PM · #24

What are you using to trigger the flash when it is off the camera?