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10/23/2007 03:48:24 PM · #1 |
I have had someone ask to purchase a photo file. Here's the story:
He was at a location where I was recently taking photos and asked me to include him in a picture, which I did. He asked to me email him a copy. I emailed him two (I took several shots which included him). He emailed back to say thanks, and to ask if I would be willing to sell him a larger file for the purpose of making a print for his office, and possibly making Christmas cards for his personal use.
I have never sold a file or even a print. I do not want to compromise my rights to this file in the future. It's a good picture and I intend to print it one day. I have no problem with his using it for his personal use such as printing it for his office. How should I proceed? What are the copyright issues, and what would be a fair price? I've also considered the possibility of having him purchase it through DPC Prints, but I haven't yet set up an account, and it seems kind of complex to get started.
Any and all suggestion will be appreciated. Thanks, Roger |
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10/23/2007 05:10:38 PM · #2 |
$30 maybe.
I sell christmas cards, but after teh picture is taken there is work involved so I have to charge for that. Most people buy 40 or 50 cards, might make $30 on that.
More money can be made selling a few prints, but he wants one for his office and the xmas cards and you don't have to do anymore work...
I've sold some images as files from HS class reunions and the like- $25-35 seems a good price. Perhaps too cheap as those that ask don't complain about the price LOL
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10/23/2007 06:00:17 PM · #3 |
Don't take this as criticism ... but only as the way "I" would look at it:
On several occasions I've been out taking pictures when I have run into tourists who would like their picture taken. Usually they hand me THEIR camera and I take the shot. Often I do so knowing that their camera simply isn't going to 'get' the shot (being P&S film with no controls).
When this has happened, I've offered to take their picture with my camera too if they will just give me their email address.
Since they typically live far away from me (being tourists, and all) I have no expectation of ever seeing them again or having any kind of business relationship with them. So I simply send them the file. Free. No strings attached.
I just hope that when they get home they'll be talking about this "really nice guy" they met in Salt Lake City, Utah, who was willing to take an awesome picture for them. That's all the reward I need. :-)
I realize this doesn't directly address your scenario (it sounds like you actually want to USE a picture that has someone that you don't know in it), just thought I'd relate my own experiences in sort of a "Pay It Forward" fashion.
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10/23/2007 06:05:02 PM · #4 |
like dave said, unless you went out to make money, you really have nothing to lose giving them a copy of the file for personal use.
Message edited by author 2007-10-23 18:13:52. |
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10/23/2007 06:09:10 PM · #5 |
Message edited by author 2007-10-23 18:13:05. |
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10/23/2007 06:10:04 PM · #6 |
Message edited by author 2007-10-23 18:12:55. |
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10/23/2007 06:10:29 PM · #7 |
Message edited by author 2007-10-23 18:12:46. |
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10/23/2007 06:17:10 PM · #8 |
I do have an awesome story to tell...
Two years ago (right about this time of year), I had gone to St. George, Utah to watch my kids participate in a swim meet. That was during the day and partially into the evening. But after that ... I was free ... and bored. So I took my camera and went looking for some night shots.
While I was driving around the city, I went up to the L.D.S. Temple and set up my tripod and was taking a few shots as I watched a young couple pass me and linger in a corner of the yard behind me. I could faintly hear them talking but had no idea what the conversation was about. And I continued playing with various long exposure settings.
Suddenly I heard a loud shout of joy and wondered what that was about. And later... as they were passing me by again (going the other way this time) I chatted with them briefly and discovered that he had just ASKED her to marry him!
I thought ... oh, that's *so* cool! How about if I take your picture right here, in front of the temple where he proposed, and send you the pictures through email?
And that's what I did. I've never heard anything more from them (St. George is about 5 hours away from me). But I felt really good about having been able to provide this couple with a picture of them taken in front of the St. George Temple on the night of their engagement.
How cool is that?
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10/23/2007 07:01:47 PM · #9 |
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10/23/2007 07:53:31 PM · #10 |
You could give it to him for free, and ask him to give you photo credits, and maybe have him put your site near the print, where when people see it and are interested they will look into your site, hope this helps,
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10/24/2007 08:59:26 AM · #11 |
| Thanks everyone for your responses. I have no need to make any money from him, so giving it to him for free is a good idea. I was more concerned about the copyright issues if I give him the file. Does he then have the right to reproduce the print at will, and can I still print it as well? Also, what is a size of file he would need to make a large sized print? Thanks again. |
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10/24/2007 10:44:08 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by cogerox:
Thanks everyone for your responses. I have no need to make any money from him, so giving it to him for free is a good idea. I was more concerned about the copyright issues if I give him the file. Does he then have the right to reproduce the print at will, and can I still print it as well? Also, what is a size of file he would need to make a large sized print? Thanks again. |
The size file he would need depends on a lot of things, one of the most important being how big a print he wants to make, the bigger the print generally the bigger the source file should be.
As for the copyright on the image, thats yours and always will be unless you give it away or sell it. Giving him a digital file just means that he can do what ever he wants with it and if you want to restrict that have him sign a contract stating what you will allow him to use the image for. Make sure to include your copyright info in the exif/iptc data of the image you snd him as well. Many printing places will look for that.
On a side note, you mentioned using the photo yourself. Perhaps you can do a trade and have him signs a model release in exchange for the rights to use the photo for personal use? |
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10/24/2007 10:58:00 AM · #13 |
The copyright will remain yours, and the guy is not entitled to resell the picture. You can still use and print, but for commercial use you will need his permission. Not because you gave him the pic, but beacuse his face is on it.
@David: cool story, great you took their pic.
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10/24/2007 12:51:12 PM · #14 |
| Thanks to all. You've been a huge help. |
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