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09/26/2007 05:48:34 PM · #51 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
We said in the scores thread we'd do an "after challenge" discussion for those of us who had rather lackluster scores. I think it's a good chance to learn from our "mistakes" - learn what we did right with respect to DPC scoring, and what we need to work on in the future.
I'll start:
In retrospect, it's rather dull. It's also subjectless and doesn't have particularly good balance for a landscape. I do think it's in silhouette, but without a truly well-defined subject, I don't think it sufficiently meets the challenge.
Just for fun, here's a different edit - a bit less depth, but more silhouette-ish? I also posted a couple in the outtakes thread that probably would have scored better.
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Somehow, I think the second edit focus attention on the small trees better. My promlem w/ it was the way the small trees were cut off by the opposite bank. Was there any way to get a higher or lower angle, so wee could see the tops of them? I gave it a 6, but my highest was an 8 this time. |
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09/26/2007 09:38:05 PM · #52 |
| Thanks for the feedback, folks. I do realize the unfortunate positioning - to get lower I would have lost the lake and the sun, and to get higher I'd have needed to be a lot taller. There wasn't anything to stand on there. I do rather prefer the B&W version, but in retrospect, I probably shouldn't have entered the shot at all if I were concerned with the score. Main reason was just to share one of the views here. |
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09/26/2007 11:20:08 PM · #53 |
annpatt
Nikon D70 09/26/2007 01:12:04 PM
It's a good start. The main problem is that not much of him is visible. If there were more horizon, so we could see all (or at least most) of him, I think you'd have a really good shot.
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yospiff
Canon Powershot S5 IS 09/26/2007 09:32:13 AM
I thought this was pretty good. Perhaps a little too much empty black space toward the bottom. Cropped a little more to the top might draw me to the subject more.
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McFrikki
Canon EOS-30D 09/26/2007 07:48:46 AM
It's a cool moment, but like others said it just lacks outlines. I can't really distinguish that this is a whole person, your focus is all on the top of the image which makes this a really odd composition and not pleasing to look at. If you would have backed up some more and tried a different angle to get more of the outlines of the person you would have gotten better results I think. Also you don't need to use the bright sun like this to get a silhouette, could just use the warm colored sky, as the sun overexposes the top of the image and makes a ugly mark on the sword.
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Thank you all for the comments and I hope to learn from them.
I think that there must be something wrong with the way this image is displayed by other monitors or with my own because I can see on my monitor right down to his shoes and right onto the top of the bench with a full outline of everything including the sword.
My monitor displays a digital signal and I use a Huey to the colour correction on the monitor for photographic rendering.
So I guess I need someone that I can have to preview my photos and tell me how they look befor I submit them so I can correct them first.
I was surprised by the comments that related to the darkness but maybe there is an adjustment I need to do in order to see them as others do.
Is it possible that I could be so far off on the colour and contrast? I have to tell you that it looks pretty darn good on my monitor so that is why I was a little sad to see it do so bad.
McFrikki the last part of your comment "the sun overexposes the top of the image and makes a ugly mark on the sword." was well met, now that I know you cannot see the rest of the Scimitar. It was what I intended for this shot to see the sword being melted in two by the sun. Kind of like showing the power behind the image.
So once again I welcome any and all comments both for and against it will help me to grow as a photographer.
I love this site THANK YOU!!!
MAX!
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09/27/2007 09:48:43 AM · #54 |
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09/27/2007 09:53:07 AM · #55 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Anyone else? |
Now that the post-mortem is complete, do you have any ideas about cause of death?
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09/27/2007 09:55:49 AM · #56 |
I've long suspected involuntary spasms of the voting finger. I've never known it to be fatal, so I suppose we can rule that out...
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09/27/2007 11:09:28 AM · #57 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
Boo boo - I already commented on yours during the challenge. For "clean" DPC-like shots, you don't want "clutter", like cars and people.
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I think a big part of why "clean" shots without clutter work here is the 640x size limit. I took a landscape last weekend that is one of the best shots I've ever taken, but I won't be entering it into the free study, because when it's shrunk down to 640x, there's just too many little details, and the thing that's the focus of the image is about 10 pixels high. But the framed 16x24" print will look fabulous, and I'll probably be able to sell a few prints. |
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09/27/2007 11:18:34 AM · #58 |
Originally posted by Quigley:
I think that there must be something wrong with the way this image is displayed by other monitors or with my own because I can see on my monitor right down to his shoes and right onto the top of the bench with a full outline of everything including the sword.
My monitor displays a digital signal and I use a Huey to the colour correction on the monitor for photographic rendering.
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Is it possible that I could be so far off on the colour and contrast? I have to tell you that it looks pretty darn good on my monitor so that is why I was a little sad to see it do so bad.
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I've used an eye one to do calibration for a couple of years, so I always assumed that my monitor was calibrated "correctly," and if there was a problem, it's your problem, not mine. About 2 weeks ago, I got a newer, nicer monitor, and the results I see are totally different, even after calibration. The new monitor is much brighter than the old. I'm not sure yet if that's good or bad. I always check my challenge entries on my uncalibrated monitor at work, since that's where people do a lot of their voting.
Regardless of all this, if I look really closely, I see a small outline of your guy's shoe, but nothing else except black below his armpit, on a monitor that I'm suspecting is actually a little bright. |
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09/27/2007 11:24:08 AM · #59 |
Originally posted by Jutilda:
... other sites where the images are judged by professionals ... |
I thought the post-morten was also dead... but since it's not I want to pop a side question: can you tell which these other sites are? |
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09/27/2007 02:09:48 PM · #60 |
| Thanks everyone for your help, luckily i was able to recover the picture. |
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09/27/2007 02:35:19 PM · #61 |
Originally posted by battymaddie:
Thanks everyone for your help, luckily i was able to recover the picture. |
That is great news good on you.
MAX! |
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09/27/2007 03:58:23 PM · #62 |
Originally posted by battymaddie:
Thanks everyone for your help, luckily i was able to recover the picture. |
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you didn't fall into the transfer software trap....did you shoot in RAW?
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09/27/2007 04:27:08 PM · #63 |
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