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09/17/2007 04:33:35 PM · #26 |
official - unofficial list.
1. Hit - Includes of single, double, triple, HR, In the park HR, and bunt.
2. Walk - Includes unintentional and intentional.
3. Hit by pitch
4. Fielders Choice
5. Pass ball third strike- When batter swing and misses for a third strike and the catcher does not catch the ball in his mitt and the hitter beats the throw to first base.
6. Catchers interference - catchers interference happens before the ball is in play off the bat.
7. Players interference - Players interference is different than catchers interference. Players interference can only happen when the ball is in play.
8. Error
Message edited by author 2007-09-17 16:33:55. |
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09/17/2007 04:34:13 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by ajdelaware:
Yeah, but I think its only scored an error for the catcher if the runner reaches the base.
Look at any catchers stats, Ruiz from the phils for example, I have seen him make that 3rd dropped strike tag countless times, yet he has 1 error on the year. |
"dropped third strikes" are generally scored as a wild pitch or a passed ball.
Somewhat associated with how many ways to reach base, here's one of my favorite baseball trivia questions:
What is the maximum number of pitches that a batter can see in a single at-bat, without ever making contact with the ball?
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09/17/2007 04:34:25 PM · #28 |
| I think that list is dead on, except your missing fan interference. |
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09/17/2007 04:35:01 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by larryslights:
Originally posted by ajdelaware:
Yeah, but I think its only scored an error for the catcher if the runner reaches the base.
Look at any catchers stats, Ruiz from the phils for example, I have seen him make that 3rd dropped strike tag countless times, yet he has 1 error on the year. |
"dropped third strikes" are generally scored as a wild pitch or a passed ball.
Somewhat associated with how many ways to reach base, here's one of my favorite baseball trivia questions:
What is the maximum number of pitches that a batter can see in a single at-bat, without ever making contact with the ball? |
Thats what I said, but then was told by everyone else that I was off. |
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09/17/2007 04:36:10 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by larryslights:
[quote=ajdelaware] What is the maximum number of pitches that a batter can see in a single at-bat, without ever making contact with the ball? |
I would say 6, but that seems to obvious.
2 strikes, 4 balls
3 strikes, 3 balls
*edit - just looked up the right answer and had no clue that was the rule.
Message edited by author 2007-09-17 16:38:22. |
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09/17/2007 04:45:09 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by larryslights:
Originally posted by ajdelaware:
Yeah, but I think its only scored an error for the catcher if the runner reaches the base.
Look at any catchers stats, Ruiz from the phils for example, I have seen him make that 3rd dropped strike tag countless times, yet he has 1 error on the year. |
"dropped third strikes" are generally scored as a wild pitch or a passed ball.
Somewhat associated with how many ways to reach base, here's one of my favorite baseball trivia questions:
What is the maximum number of pitches that a batter can see in a single at-bat, without ever making contact with the ball? |
"dropped third strike" is still recorded as a strikeout and the runner is able to take first if he beats the throw to first. The batter is not credited with a hit.
note: similar to when a player is on third and the batter hits a sacrifice fly ball and the runner at third scores. The batter is not credited with a hit but he does get credit for the RBI.
Message edited by author 2007-09-17 16:51:27. |
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09/17/2007 04:49:31 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by ajdelaware:
Originally posted by larryslights:
[quote=ajdelaware] What is the maximum number of pitches that a batter can see in a single at-bat, without ever making contact with the ball? |
I would say 6, but that seems to obvious.
2 strikes, 4 balls
3 strikes, 3 balls
*edit - just looked up the right answer and had no clue that was the rule. |
Does it count as a pitch the batter can see if the ball hits a bird before getting to the batter? (see Randy Johnson a few years ago) |
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09/17/2007 04:50:00 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by swhiddon:
Originally posted by larryslights:
Originally posted by ajdelaware:
Yeah, but I think its only scored an error for the catcher if the runner reaches the base.
Look at any catchers stats, Ruiz from the phils for example, I have seen him make that 3rd dropped strike tag countless times, yet he has 1 error on the year. |
"dropped third strikes" are generally scored as a wild pitch or a passed ball.
Somewhat associated with how many ways to reach base, here's one of my favorite baseball trivia questions:
What is the maximum number of pitches that a batter can see in a single at-bat, without ever making contact with the ball? |
"dropped third strike" is still recorded as a strikeout and the runner is able to take first if he beats the through to first. The batter is not credited with a hit.
note: similar to when a player is on third and the batter hits a sacrifice fly ball and the runner at third scores. The batter is not credited with a hit but he does get credit for the RBI. |
Correct it is stealing first on strike 3! :-) |
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09/17/2007 04:51:29 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by swhiddon:
Originally posted by larryslights:
Originally posted by ajdelaware:
Yeah, but I think its only scored an error for the catcher if the runner reaches the base.
Look at any catchers stats, Ruiz from the phils for example, I have seen him make that 3rd dropped strike tag countless times, yet he has 1 error on the year. |
"dropped third strikes" are generally scored as a wild pitch or a passed ball.
Somewhat associated with how many ways to reach base, here's one of my favorite baseball trivia questions:
What is the maximum number of pitches that a batter can see in a single at-bat, without ever making contact with the ball? |
"dropped third strike" is still recorded as a strikeout and the runner is able to take first if he beats the through to first. The batter is not credited with a hit.
note: similar to when a player is on third and the batter hits a sacrifice fly ball and the runner at third scores. The batter is not credited with a hit but he does get credit for the RBI. |
Thus, you have the pitchers with four strike-outs in one inning
//www.baseball-almanac.com/feats/feats19.shtml
Damn, Finley did it three times. Twice in one year!
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09/17/2007 04:52:15 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by LoudDog:
Originally posted by ajdelaware:
Originally posted by larryslights:
[quote=ajdelaware] What is the maximum number of pitches that a batter can see in a single at-bat, without ever making contact with the ball? |
I would say 6, but that seems to obvious.
2 strikes, 4 balls
3 strikes, 3 balls
*edit - just looked up the right answer and had no clue that was the rule. |
Does it count as a pitch the batter can see if the ball hits a bird before getting to the batter? (see Randy Johnson a few years ago) |
YES.
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09/17/2007 04:53:16 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by larryslights:
Originally posted by swhiddon:
Originally posted by larryslights:
Originally posted by ajdelaware:
Yeah, but I think its only scored an error for the catcher if the runner reaches the base.
Look at any catchers stats, Ruiz from the phils for example, I have seen him make that 3rd dropped strike tag countless times, yet he has 1 error on the year. |
"dropped third strikes" are generally scored as a wild pitch or a passed ball.
Somewhat associated with how many ways to reach base, here's one of my favorite baseball trivia questions:
What is the maximum number of pitches that a batter can see in a single at-bat, without ever making contact with the ball? |
"dropped third strike" is still recorded as a strikeout and the runner is able to take first if he beats the through to first. The batter is not credited with a hit.
note: similar to when a player is on third and the batter hits a sacrifice fly ball and the runner at third scores. The batter is not credited with a hit but he does get credit for the RBI. |
Thus, you have the pitchers with four strike-outs in one inning
//www.baseball-almanac.com/feats/feats19.shtml
Damn, Finley did it three times. Twice in one year! |
He had the worst catcher ever.
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09/17/2007 04:58:50 PM · #37 |
A few trivia questions about MLB.
1. Can a runner advance on a foul ball out?
2. Is there a such thing as an unassisted triple play? If so where on the field will you most likely see it happen.
3. Whats the difference in a perfect game and a no hitter?
Message edited by author 2007-09-17 17:04:51. |
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09/17/2007 05:14:43 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by swhiddon:
A few trivia questions about MLB.
1. Can a runner advance on a foul ball out?
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Yes. A ball caught on the fly in foul territory is the same as if it's caught in fair territory, and the runners can advance. My dad played in a semi-pro game where one of the outfielders ran halfway through the parking lot to catch a foul ball, and got paid back by all of the baserunners tagging up and advancing all the way home.
Originally posted by swhiddon:
2. Is there a such thing as an unassisted triple play? If so where on the field will you most likely see it happen.
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Yes. It would be most likely to happen at 2nd base, when there are at least 2 runners on. In this case, the runners would have to be at 1st and second, and in the middle of a hit and run. The batter hits a line drive to 2nd. The 2nd baseman or shortstop catches the ball, then tags one runner and forces the other.
Originally posted by swhiddon:
3. Whats the difference in a perfect game and a no hitter? |
No hitter is no hits. Perfect game is no hits and no walks.
edit: clarifications.
Message edited by author 2007-09-17 17:16:35. |
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09/17/2007 05:34:11 PM · #39 |
I find that baseball, like cricket, is a lot of inaction interspersed by short periods of action that are a remarkably similar to previous actions.
There's a lot of repetitiveness - e.g. pitcher throws ball, it passes the batter, catcher catches it; or batter makes a hit, starts running but is out before he gets to first base. It's an essentially boring game, which is why maintaining statistics is so important. ;-Þ
I thought of a couple of ways to improve the game.
1) Shorten the first base line by two or three metres. It would make the diamond a bit irregular, but give the batter a better chance.
2) Dispense with outfield players' gloves. What, they can't catch a ball without a glove? Namby-pamby. Outfield cricketers don't need gloves, and the cricket ball is probably harder than a baseball ball. |
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09/17/2007 05:36:30 PM · #40 |
Im just gonna answer that other one, because it was really interesting...
Whats the most pitches a batter can receive without the ball touching the bat....
Apparently the answer is 11:
If there is 2 outs and a runner on base.
The count is full (5 pitches), and the runner on base gets thrown out attempting to steal, the batter will be the lead off batter the next inning, with a fresh count - so then its 6 more pitches, max, resulting in either a walk or a strike out. |
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09/17/2007 05:40:23 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by Pug-H:
1) Shorten the first base line by two or three metres. It would make the diamond a bit irregular, but give the batter a better chance. A good baserunner still can have a chance on an infield grounder as it is, by doing this, it would be giving the baserunner to big of an advantage.
2) Dispense with outfield players' gloves. What, they can't catch a ball without a glove? Namby-pamby. Outfield cricketers don't need gloves, and the cricket ball is probably harder than a baseball ball. Wait until someone hits a line drive blast to the outfield...gloves are neccessary. Barehanding a moderately hard throw is painful enough on the hand, doing it off a bat would be suicide. |
Also - an average cricket hit = 57mph at max speed, while a baseball hit is closer to 90mph. Bare hand that one.
Message edited by author 2007-09-17 17:44:51. |
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09/17/2007 06:18:11 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by annpatt:
Originally posted by swhiddon:
A few trivia questions about MLB.
1. Can a runner advance on a foul ball out?
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Yes. A ball caught on the fly in foul territory is the same as if it's caught in fair territory, and the runners can advance. My dad played in a semi-pro game where one of the outfielders ran halfway through the parking lot to catch a foul ball, and got paid back by all of the baserunners tagging up and advancing all the way home.
Originally posted by swhiddon:
2. Is there a such thing as an unassisted triple play? If so where on the field will you most likely see it happen.
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Yes. It would be most likely to happen at 2nd base, when there are at least 2 runners on. In this case, the runners would have to be at 1st and second, and in the middle of a hit and run. The batter hits a line drive to 2nd. The 2nd baseman or shortstop catches the ball, then tags one runner and forces the other.
Originally posted by swhiddon:
3. Whats the difference in a perfect game and a no hitter? |
No hitter is no hits. Perfect game is no hits and no walks.
edit: clarifications. |
You were doing so good. Very good answers but.....
#3 should be No Hits, No Walks, and No Errors
And for question #1. It's not always advisable to catch the foul ball. You could actually loose the game if you catch a foul ball for an out.
Say it's tied 3-3 in the bottom of the ninth with less than two outs and a man on third. If the batter hits a long fly ball in foul territory and the fielder makes the catch (out two) and the runner on third tags up and steals home and beats the throw, he is safe and even though you caught the foul ball for out two you will loose the game because the runner scored. So in some cases the fielder will opt not to catch a catchable foul ball.
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09/17/2007 06:22:43 PM · #43 |
Reaching first on a strikeout:
If a pitch is called strike three and the ball gets away from the catcher (because of either a wild pitch or a passed ball), the batter can safely reach first if he beats the throw there so long as first base is open or there are two outs (see Rule 6.09(b)). The pitcher is credited with a strikeout, and the batter charged with a strikeout and an at-bat.
There is no error on the play (see Rules 10.12 and 10.13). There is no stolen base on the play ("You can't steal first!"). There is no out on the play, which means the pitcher can get four strikeouts in an inning (as mentioned before).
Should the runner come around to score, the runner is credited with a run and the pitcher is charged with an unearned run.
How to get to first (non- mk edition)
Using Rules 6.08 and 6.09:
1) walk or intentional walk
2) hit by pitch
3) interference by a fielder (usually the catcher)
4) interference by a runner or umpire
5) hit (including doubles, triples, and home runs)
6) dropped third strike (see above)
Plus:
7) error
8) fielder's choice
Perfect game:
No hits, no walks, and no errors by the pitcher's team.
I assume a HBP counts against a perfect game, along with the reaching first on a WP/PB. Basically nobody gets on base for any reason. |
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09/17/2007 06:25:15 PM · #44 |
You should have just done this Official Rules of Baseball
:-P |
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09/17/2007 06:28:04 PM · #45 |
Oh yeah and the update:
"Following a controversial play involving this rule in the ninth inning of Game 2 of the 2005 American League Championship Series, the application of the rule was changed when a comment was added in 2006 to Rule 6.09(b)[1]: "Rule 6.09(b) Comment: A batter who does not realize his situation on a third strike not caught, and who is not in the process of running to first base, shall be declared out once he leaves the dirt circle surrounding home plate.[4]" Such a comment represents the official interpretation of the application of the rule. Previous to this rule change, a batter was able to try for first anytime before entering the dugout."
From wiki...
And I like to think of it as stealing first but hey that is just me. :-P |
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09/17/2007 06:31:57 PM · #46 |
Player trivia
1. What outfielder caused a homerun because when he went to catch the ball it missed his glove, hit him on the top of the head and bounced over the centerfield fence.
2. What pitcher use to talk to the ball (out lout) during the game.
Message edited by author 2007-09-17 18:34:41. |
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09/17/2007 06:37:08 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by swhiddon:
You were doing so good. Very good answers but.....
#3 should be No Hits, No Walks, and No Errors
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Alas, that too is not necessarily true.
" perfect game is defined by Major League Baseball as a game in which a pitcher (or combination of pitchers) pitches a victory that lasts a minimum of nine innings and in which no opposing player reaches first base."
Thus, the first baseman (or who ever) could drop a foul pop, and be charged with an error, but yet, still, no one has reached base. So the perfect game is intact.
The maximum pitch answer is 11, as described. you looked it up, didn't you? |
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09/17/2007 06:38:01 PM · #48 |
Originally posted by swhiddon:
Player trivia
1. What outfielder caused a homerun because when he went to catch the ball it missed his glove, hit him on the top of the head and bounced over the centerfield fence.
2. What pitcher use to talk to the ball (out lout) during the game. |
1. Jose Canseco
2. Mark "The Bird" Fidrych |
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09/17/2007 06:43:11 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by larryslights:
Originally posted by swhiddon:
You were doing so good. Very good answers but.....
#3 should be No Hits, No Walks, and No Errors
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Alas, that too is not necessarily true.
" perfect game is defined by Major League Baseball as a game in which a pitcher (or combination of pitchers) pitches a victory that lasts a minimum of nine innings and in which no opposing player reaches first base."
Thus, the first baseman (or who ever) could drop a foul pop, and be charged with an error, but yet, still, no one has reached base. So the perfect game is intact.
The maximum pitch answer is 11, as described. you looked it up, didn't you? |
If a fielder drops a foul pop it will not be counted as an error. An error can only occur in the field of play. The batter just gets another opportunity to see another pitch. The same as when a picture throws a third strike and it's fouled off. Even though it was a strike the pitcher is rewarded another strike in his stats. |
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09/17/2007 06:44:49 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by larryslights:
Originally posted by swhiddon:
Player trivia
1. What outfielder caused a homerun because when he went to catch the ball it missed his glove, hit him on the top of the head and bounced over the centerfield fence.
2. What pitcher use to talk to the ball (out lout) during the game. |
1. Jose Canseco
2. Mark "The Bird" Fidrych |
Very good. I though Q2 would of been a little harder. I loved to see him pitch, it was hysterical.
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