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09/03/2007 10:46:29 PM · #1
Hey everyone,
I'm taking a trip to Gatlinburg, Tennessee, in a few weeks, and i was wanting some ND filters for the waterfalls and such, and wondered if anyone had advice on what to purchase, for my tokina 12-24mm and/or my 50mm 1.4, appreciate any responses,

Ryand
09/03/2007 11:10:37 PM · #2
First peice of advice I'd give you is get larger filters than you need and use step-up rings to mount them to your lenses.

This gives you two advantages:
1) No vignetting
2) Don't have to buy for every lens.

I'd get at least a ND4 and a ND8 for what you want to do.
09/03/2007 11:42:24 PM · #3
I use the Cokin filter system. It fits all my lenses and allows you to control the position of the dividing line with an graduated ND filter, which screw-on types don't allow.

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Message edited by author 2007-09-04 09:28:29.
09/04/2007 05:07:29 PM · #4
so what are all the things that i would need for the cokin filter set for my tokina?
09/04/2007 06:34:53 PM · #5
Originally posted by ryand:

so what are all the things that i would need for the cokin filter set for my tokina?

You would have a minium of three items:

1) The adapter ring
2) The filter holder
3) The filter

Generally speaking, you would have one adapter ring for each lens' diameter. If you have three lenses of different diameters and you want to put the Cokin filter on each of them, you would need three adapter rings. Many adapter rings are around U$15.

The filter holder and filter ar used on any of the lenses, in this example.


09/05/2007 05:30:21 PM · #6
just purchased a cokin setup on ebay, appreciate all the advice,

ryand
09/05/2007 09:10:23 PM · #7
Another piece of advice I would give is to get a second filter holder. I believe they come with three slots for filters. I have one specifically for my wide angle (Sig 10-20). On that filter holder I bought with two of the filter slots dremmelled off. This allows me to use a wider angle without the holder getting into the frame. It still starts to appear around 13 or 14 mm. But using a regular filter will cut into you field of view. I would recommend getting graduated neutral density filters also. I have a couple hard edge ones(really noticeable shift from dark to light) but am thinking of getting some soft edge ones that are less noticeable. Also my favorite filter is my blue/yellow P173 circular polarizer. It does amazing things.
same scene seconds apart except a twist to the polarizer. I think the filter is around $45 new.
Hope this helps, you'll like having them.
09/05/2007 09:15:40 PM · #8
wow, thank you very much for the advice, really neat effect on those two shots there. also i'd like to ask where i could get the wide angle filter holder? i looked on B&H and didnt see anything on a quick search, and also it is the same filters used for both, isnt it just that it only has one slot instead of three? appreciate all the help,

Ryand
09/05/2007 09:26:58 PM · #9
Ryan - As Joe mentioned, you'll need to consider the wide angle of your 12-24.

Here's a Cokin Filter holder specifically for wide angle. Cokin Wide Angle Filter Holder

Have fun!

edit to add, the link is to B&H.

Message edited by author 2007-09-05 21:27:25.
09/05/2007 09:33:10 PM · #10
Originally posted by ryand:

wow, thank you very much for the advice, really neat effect on those two shots there. also i'd like to ask where i could get the wide angle filter holder? i looked on B&H and didnt see anything on a quick search, and also it is the same filters used for both, isnt it just that it only has one slot instead of three? appreciate all the help,

Ryand

oops, i think I am a little off. I just did a quick test outside with the filter holders I have. I use the P series filter holder. It will work well for two slots without getting in the way at 12mm. You may get a little vignette but not much and I kinda like it. If you use a circular polarizer then it may get get in the way and you have to zoom in a bit. Sorry for the misinformation.

it is the same filters just different amount of slots.

Here is the Cokin page about there sizes. I would stick with the P series myself. The Z series is wider but I believe the filters go up in price too. And you can alway hold the GND filter by hand right up to the lens and shoot at 12 mm with a tripod.
09/05/2007 09:39:15 PM · #11
Originally posted by glad2badad:


Here's a Cokin Filter holder specifically for wide angle. Cokin Wide Angle Filter Holder

It looks like specifically for wide angle=1 slot. Interesting, so it looks like you can get that for 11.95 or get your own regular one for 7.99 and modify it yourself. I'd probably just spend the $4 and have it done. :)
09/05/2007 09:58:43 PM · #12
thank you so much for the help everyone, i think i will get that wide angle holder, looks easiest, really appreciate all of the assistance, looking forward to trying them out,

Ryand
09/06/2007 12:24:21 PM · #13
I need some assistance with ND filters as well. I need a non-graduated ND filter so as to be able to do long exposures wide open, namely on my 17-55 2.8 and 70-200 2.8. I wish to continue using both with the lens hood, so Cokin won't work for me if I understand their system correctly.
Here are two ND8 Hoya filters I found, but I don't know what the difference between them is.
Hoya 77mm ND8 (30£)
Hoya 77mm ND8 (52£)
What should I go for?
09/06/2007 12:42:19 PM · #14
Originally posted by gloda:

I need some assistance with ND filters as well. I need a non-graduated ND filter so as to be able to do long exposures wide open, namely on my 17-55 2.8 and 70-200 2.8. I wish to continue using both with the lens hood, so Cokin won't work for me if I understand their system correctly.
Here are two ND8 Hoya filters I found, but I don't know what the difference between them is.
Hoya 77mm ND8 (30£)
Hoya 77mm ND8 (52£)
What should I go for?


Cokin has a lens hood that fits the holder.

//www.cokin.fr/ico4-p1.html

Message edited by author 2007-09-06 12:44:02.
09/08/2007 05:28:55 PM · #15
Bump. I'd really rather have a screw-on filter than the square cokin ones.
Hoya 77mm ND8 (30£)
Hoya 77mm ND8 (52£)
What should I go for?
09/08/2007 05:33:41 PM · #16
Originally posted by gloda:

Bump. I'd really rather have a screw-on filter than the square cokin ones.
Hoya 77mm ND8 (30£)
Hoya 77mm ND8 (52£)
What should I go for?


I hear ya. Especially with ND filters, where light leakage around the edges can be a bugger.
Looks like one is multi-coated, the other is probably not. Love the "digital" marketing hype on the multicoated one, LOL. I'd like 'em to explain to me why an ND filter needs to be "made for digital."
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