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09/26/2007 10:50:19 PM · #701 |
Originally posted by hywind:
Hello all team suck friends.
Have been away from the clubhouse to handle on going matters, and now another tragic event has occured.
2 weeks ago our 20yr old nephew on my wife side of the family who has been living in our previous house for the last 5 years, was fatally stabbed in the early hours of the morning about 1/2 a mile form his home.
The acussed was caught later and is behind bars charged with murder with no bail before the trial later next year.
On a good side all else is going along fine :):) so keep smiling life is too short not to. |
Oh dear...I'm sorry to hear of your loss. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family members.
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09/26/2007 10:53:42 PM · #702 |
Originally posted by levyj413:
Hey, anyone notice the roll that  Bdenny is on? Eight straight 6+ scores, a ribbon, a top 10, and two top 20! |
I noticed...wish his Lemonade Inspiration Poster would have ribboned. I loved that one!
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09/26/2007 10:54:45 PM · #703 |
Got a few faves recently in the B&W side challenge. I am stoked!!!
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09/27/2007 01:11:03 AM · #704 |
Hi gang. I thought maybe TS might appreciate some of my recent blur shots:
  
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09/27/2007 01:45:33 AM · #705 |
Originally posted by JuliBoc:
I've been using Firefox for at least a year now, and I would hate to go back to IE. The spell checker is fabulous, it underlines spelling errors in red, and it offers a list of correct words when you right click, just like MS Word.
I really like being able to open different Internet addresses in separate tabs. I keep my DPC home page, Browse Comments, Threads I'm watching, Team Suck threads, my email, all open at the same time. |
If you're comparing it to IE7, yeah, it beats it hands down, but if you're not one of the people who jumped on the "New & Improved" bandwagon and still have IE6, it didn't work anywhere near as well for me.
I can open 10-15 browsers at a time with no problem in IE6, even with dialup, but DPC was one of the sites that didn't open well when I was trying Firefox.
It may be that Firefox is geared to broadband.
I have yet to find anything that works as well for me as IE6.YMMV
ETA: I have Office 2003 and it does way more than just the spellcheck, not the least of which it has Outlook in its full form instead of just OE, and it's worlds better.
Message edited by author 2007-09-27 01:49:28.
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09/27/2007 05:34:15 AM · #706 |
Originally posted by hywind:
Hello all team suck friends.
Have been away from the clubhouse to handle on going matters, and now another tragic event has occured.
2 weeks ago our 20yr old nephew on my wife side of the family who has been living in our previous house for the last 5 years, was fatally stabbed in the early hours of the morning about 1/2 a mile form his home.
The acussed was caught later and is behind bars charged with murder with no bail before the trial later next year.
On a good side all else is going along fine :):) so keep smiling life is too short not to. |
My sincerest condolences to you. We seem overall as a group to have a lot of bad things happen to us, but this is the worst by far. I'll keep your family in my thoughts. |
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09/27/2007 05:46:20 AM · #707 |
Originally posted by JuliBoc:
Originally posted by sherpet:
Some members have suggested firefox added to my desktop.
Do any of you have this, as I always get worried when adding something else to my computer.
Here is the thread that many have suggested firefox.....
Sherpets sight problem & firefox |
I've been using Firefox for at least a year now, and I would hate to go back to IE. The spell checker is fabulous, it underlines spelling errors in red, and it offers a list of correct words when you right click, just like MS Word.
I really like being able to open different Internet addresses in separate tabs. I keep my DPC home page, Browse Comments, Threads I'm watching, Team Suck threads, my email, all open at the same time.
Also it has some very nice free plug-ins. I use one that blocks ads (not just popup windows, but the ads on the web pages, and I love one called CoolIris that will temporarily open a link in a popup window without having to actually navigate to that page and then go back. One advantage is that if you are writing something, eg a post, and you want to check what someone's first name is, you can mouse over their userid and their profile will pop up without deleting the post you are writing.
It's good, and never caused any problems on my computers. I have used it with Windows XP and Vista. |
Have you tried IE7 this is a vast improvement on IE6 and I found it better than Firefox, this is just my opinion.:)
Message edited by author 2007-09-27 05:47:00. |
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09/27/2007 07:04:36 AM · #708 |
Originally posted by hywind:
Have you tried IE7 this is a vast improvement on IE6 and I found it better than Firefox, this is just my opinion.:) |
Haven't found that to be true here.
IE7 is riddled with bugs, harder to use, and has many sites that just will not open with it.
At the Ford dealer I worked at, FMCDealer.com has specific instructions on their home page as to how to jack around the default settings just so that IE7 will work right. I've experienced that elsewhere, too. I didn't much care for how it worked on my work computer. Sometimes it would just lock up and refuse to open at all. I've not had that problem with my IE6 here at home, even with the dialup.
I have found multiple sites that it won't work with.
My daughter changed to IE7 in her laptop and we had so much trouble that she switched to Firefox so that it worked better......IE7 may be better than it was, but it was VERY problematic at inception (Surprise!).
Though I'm by no stretch of the imagination a computer expert, I have in the last decade and a half learned to hold off on updating 'til the rest of the world is done being the Beta test for whatever new stuff is out. I've had one crash in 14+ years, and my box was salvageable with the hard drive that was in it......my computer guy was slightly surprised that it came back, but it did. I figure my safety has been due to scrupulous adherence to the sit-back-and-watch-the-gurus-sort-it-out method of bringing on new features and equipment.
ETA:I'm holding off now on getting a new box 'cause it's getting harder to find good units with XP Pro, and I won't buy Vista 'til at least January which is when I understand should be a safe period for the grief to be wrung out of it.
It worked best when it had IE6.
Our computer still has IE6 and we don't have the issues.
Message edited by author 2007-09-27 07:13:53.
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09/27/2007 07:16:34 AM · #709 |
The great advantage, eyesightwise, to firefox is the Ctrl+ trick that zooms in for every click. Taken to the extreme, the post above looks like this on a 21" screen:
[thumb]592206[/thumb] |
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09/27/2007 09:07:24 AM · #710 |
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09/27/2007 09:15:13 AM · #711 |
Originally posted by JuliBoc:
Originally posted by posthumous:
Originally posted by JuliBoc:
My husband taught poetry/creative writing (among other things) in a private school, because they didn't require credentials. He started teaching after he retired from professional theater, and he was over 40. He taught for 20 years, was loved by the students and parents, and never got teaching credentials. |
That's inspiring, thank you! Knowing that, and knowing that they allow even  raish to teach, gives me hope... :) |
Seriously, Don, I think you would be a perfect fit in a preparatory high school. You are a very well-educated independent thinker with a sense of humor the students would love. You could have a lasting effect on many young lives. The administration would have a problem with you, but you'd have the support of the parents once they see how you are waking up their children. What greater thing could you do for society than to teach the children to think for themselves? The down side is: private schools don't pay well. |
I nearly spit up my coffee when I read the part I bolded, above. Very well put, Julianne. I'm still laughing. But seriously, I agree that you would be a fantastic teacher, Don. Shades of "O Captain, My Captain" are coming to mind. |
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09/27/2007 09:38:28 AM · #712 |
| He even looks a little like Robin Williams from "Dead Poets Society", if you squint. Well, not in his latest self portrait, but you know what I mean.... |
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09/27/2007 11:51:45 AM · #713 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
He even looks a little like Robin Williams from "Dead Poets Society", if you squint. Well, not in his latest self portrait, but you know what I mean.... |
Heh, you're right, he does! And maybe he could inspire their poetry via photography! |
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09/27/2007 01:08:59 PM · #714 |
Originally posted by raish:
The great advantage, eyesightwise, to firefox is the Ctrl+ trick that zooms in for every click. Taken to the extreme, the post above looks like this on a 21" screen:
[thumb]592206[/thumb] |
Ha! IE has had this feature for a while. Simply roll your mouse wheel forward while holding down the Ctrl key, and it will zoom in (magnify the web page content). Roll your mouse wheel backwards and it will zoom out. To quickly get back to 100% zoom, simply click the magnifying glass icon at the bottom right of the IE window.
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09/27/2007 04:13:05 PM · #715 |
Originally posted by hywind:
Originally posted by JuliBoc:
Originally posted by sherpet:
Some members have suggested firefox added to my desktop.
Do any of you have this, as I always get worried when adding something else to my computer.
Here is the thread that many have suggested firefox.....
Sherpets sight problem & firefox |
I've been using Firefox for at least a year now, and I would hate to go back to IE. The spell checker is fabulous, it underlines spelling errors in red, and it offers a list of correct words when you right click, just like MS Word.
I really like being able to open different Internet addresses in separate tabs. I keep my DPC home page, Browse Comments, Threads I'm watching, Team Suck threads, my email, all open at the same time.
Also it has some very nice free plug-ins. I use one that blocks ads (not just popup windows, but the ads on the web pages, and I love one called CoolIris that will temporarily open a link in a popup window without having to actually navigate to that page and then go back. One advantage is that if you are writing something, eg a post, and you want to check what someone's first name is, you can mouse over their userid and their profile will pop up without deleting the post you are writing.
It's good, and never caused any problems on my computers. I have used it with Windows XP and Vista. |
Have you tried IE7 this is a vast improvement on IE6 and I found it better than Firefox, this is just my opinion.:) |
I only use Firefox except where IE is absolutely required (ie, the content won't work in Firefox). Where that's the case, it's the fault of the web page's creator for not following agreed web standards (Firefox is standards compliant and will render any standards compliant web page appropriately; IE is not standards compliant, but some people design for it because they have purchased Micro$oft's web server software which utilizes non-standard implementations).
I use Firefox because I: visit a lot of the edges of the Internet as part of my job, and I would never do that with IE (it's too insecure); I use my browser a lot, and Firefox is configurable, IE is not -- for example, I see no advertisements on DPC, because I have an "adblock" plugin for firefox installed; I like tabs, not new windows; I also like the silliness of making my browser look the way I want with themes, which I can do in Firefox, but could not the last time I checked IE.
There is very little doubt that for heavy web users that take the time to get to know Firefox, IE provides no competition to it. None. If you don't want to take the time to get to know it, configure it, and make it work for you, it might not be worth that effort for you anyway -- stick with IE (but stay away from new pages or the "edges" of the Internet; it's just not safe).
Best,
Rob
P.S. Hey, I made a post; it's been days since I've done that . . . maybe I should submit to a challenge again, too, before I get kicked off of team hoover . . .
Edit to add: P.S.S. Not configurable, but the fastest browser I've used, and based on Gecko (which is the engine behind Firefox), is called k-meleon. Very, very fast browser . . .
Message edited by author 2007-09-27 16:14:59. |
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09/27/2007 04:26:54 PM · #716 |
Originally posted by hywind:
Have you tried IE7 this is a vast improvement on IE6 and I found it better than Firefox, this is just my opinion.:) |
Agreed. IE7 is better without question. The tabs function makes it easy to navigate between windows.
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09/27/2007 04:51:55 PM · #717 |
Originally posted by rheverly:
[I only use Firefox except where IE is absolutely required (ie, the content won't work in Firefox). Where that's the case, it's the fault of the web page's creator for not following agreed web standards (Firefox is standards compliant and will render any standards compliant web page appropriately; IE is not standards compliant, but some people design for it because they have purchased Micro$oft's web server software which utilizes non-standard implementations). |
Absolutely not true. IE is totally standards compliant. IE also supports web pages which are NOT standard compliant. That is a huge difference! Microsoft's web server software has nothing to do with it. The fact is that there are a ton of sites out there that either have not been revamped to keep up with the standards or have simply not been updated. I think it is very selfish of some browser creators to simply not care about displaying these site correctly.
Originally posted by rheverly:
I use Firefox because I: visit a lot of the edges of the Internet as part of my job, and I would never do that with IE (it's too insecure); I use my browser a lot, and Firefox is configurable, IE is not -- for example, I see no advertisements on DPC, because I have an "adblock" plugin for firefox installed; I like tabs, not new windows; I also like the silliness of making my browser look the way I want with themes, which I can do in Firefox, but could not the last time I checked IE. |
It is obvious that you have not used IE in a long time. :) First of all, the only reason why IE has had security issues is because it is far and away the most popular browser. My site statistics show that about 98% of my visitors use IE. The nasty folks that create viruses also know that IE is far and away the most widely used, and as a result, that is why they try and exploit IE for security and viruses. It is not that Firefox and others are more secure as you claim, they are just not targeted as much...same as with Mac OS.
Tabs are a huge part of the IE7 experience. There are also many plugins available for IE7 to customize it.
Originally posted by rheverly:
There is very little doubt that for heavy web users that take the time to get to know Firefox, IE provides no competition to it. None. If you don't want to take the time to get to know it, configure it, and make it work for you, it might not be worth that effort for you anyway -- stick with IE (but stay away from new pages or the "edges" of the Internet; it's just not safe). |
Once again, totally not true. :) I am an extremly heavy web user both at work and at home. I have tried Firefox and hated it. It was a tiny bit quicker, but since I am on broadband like 80% of users, it did not make much of a difference. I got way to frustrated with pages not displaying or not displaying properly. For example when I was at my sister's and tried to extend her Panda antivirus program over the web, it wasted about half hour of my time before I realized that the reason one of the input boxes required could not be found was because I was using firefox. Switched to IE and it was wonderful. Why stay away from "new" pages or the "edges" of the internet? I do both frequently and have never had a virus or a problem. Just have a good firewall and internet security program and keep it up to date. That is what they are for after all.
If you want a good, reliable browser that will display pretty much any page on the internet the way it was designed to be seen...get IE7. If you are interested in toys and do not care to see things as they are intended...try firefox. :)
Please do not take it personally Rob, everyone can have their opinions, but I certainly do not share yours. As a result I did not want our valued TS members to think that Firefox was the best thing since sliced bread, which it is not, especially since you were putting down a program that you obviously have not used in years.
Ernie
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09/27/2007 06:41:52 PM · #718 |
Worked hard to finally get an image for Sept Free Study...FINALLY got a few images with the focus ok.
My apologies to Team Butterfly for my not being able to submit in recent challenges.
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09/27/2007 06:55:05 PM · #719 |
I would also like to apologize to Team Chasing Butterflies for my non-participation lately.
I hope I have snapped out of it and will be entering at least two before the end of the month. :) |
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09/27/2007 06:58:06 PM · #720 |
oh oh...i lost my siggy...has anyone seen it lying around?
ETA oops...there it is. that darn checkbox.
Message edited by author 2007-09-27 18:58:37.
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09/27/2007 07:03:58 PM · #721 |
Originally posted by basssman7:
I would also like to apologize to Team Chasing Butterflies for my non-participation lately.
I hope I have snapped out of it and will be entering at least two before the end of the month. :) |
Originally posted by ephln:
Worked hard to finally get an image for Sept Free Study...FINALLY got a few images with the focus ok.
My apologies to Team Butterfly for my not being able to submit in recent challenges. |
Team Chasing Butterflies are too busy out chasing butterflies to be bothered with noticing how much or little anyone else has participated. :D
Don't worry, we all enter as we feel like it - no "team" pressure at all. |
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09/27/2007 07:08:56 PM · #722 |
Originally posted by ephln:
Worked hard to finally get an image for Sept Free Study...FINALLY got a few images with the focus ok.
My apologies to Team Butterfly for my not being able to submit in recent challenges. |
PS...I love my entry...so the voters will probably tank it!!!!
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09/27/2007 08:14:22 PM · #723 |
I have been so inspired by Melethia's rock series, I have considered photographing my current preoccupied condition but I'm afraid hitting my head against brick walls might be a tad bloody.
IE is fine. IE, Vista, and Oracle Clinical, grumble. |
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09/27/2007 09:15:03 PM · #724 |
Originally posted by basssman7:
Originally posted by rheverly:
[I only use Firefox except where IE is absolutely required (ie, the content won't work in Firefox). Where that's the case, it's the fault of the web page's creator for not following agreed web standards (Firefox is standards compliant and will render any standards compliant web page appropriately; IE is not standards compliant, but some people design for it because they have purchased Micro$oft's web server software which utilizes non-standard implementations). |
Absolutely not true. IE is totally standards compliant. IE also supports web pages which are NOT standard compliant. That is a huge difference! Microsoft's web server software has nothing to do with it. The fact is that there are a ton of sites out there that either have not been revamped to keep up with the standards or have simply not been updated. I think it is very selfish of some browser creators to simply not care about displaying these site correctly. |
IE is most certainly not standards compliant, unless you mean Microsoft standards. A long time strategy of Microsoft is to take a standard and extend it, and by extend I mean break it. Since IE (once it started getting bundled with Windows) has such a large market share, page designers have a choice of writing to a published standard to coding to Micorsoft's "extensions." The pages which are not web compliant would be those "tuned" to a particular version of IE.
Of course, you don't have to take my word for it. Even though I have a fair bit of background in web technology, including writing browser applications and server plugins (and for the record, Apache was much easier to work with than IIS), I'm just one voice. A simple search of "IE7 vs Firefox" takes you to all kinds of comparisons, most of which put Firefox as better than IE on nearly every feature you can think of.
Ironically, one of the reasons IE7 is more secure than IE6 is Microsoft disabled many ActiveX features. Let me rephrase this, to make IE7 more secure, Microsoft had to disable it's own technology. I remember one site which had some ActiveX code which exported the user's bookmarks to their kernel.exe file; IE6 would happily do this, and the user would have to reinstall.
Originally posted by basssman7:
Tabs are a huge part of the IE7 experience. There are also many plugins available for IE7 to customize it.
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This is another instance of Microsoft being very late in figuring things out. Firefox (and other browsers) have had tabs for a long time, and for Firefox there are thousands of free plugins available. IE? Not so many, and many of those are not free.
Originally posted by basssman7:
Once again, totally not true. :) I am an extremly heavy web user both at work and at home. I have tried Firefox and hated it. It was a tiny bit quicker, but since I am on broadband like 80% of users, it did not make much of a difference. I got way to frustrated with pages not displaying or not displaying properly. For example when I was at my sister's and tried to extend her Panda antivirus program over the web, it wasted about half hour of my time before I realized that the reason one of the input boxes required could not be found was because I was using firefox. Switched to IE and it was wonderful. Why stay away from "new" pages or the "edges" of the internet? I do both frequently and have never had a virus or a problem. Just have a good firewall and internet security program and keep it up to date. That is what they are for after all.
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And disable ActiveX, and Microsoft's extensions to Javascript, and... A firewall helps keep random programs from probing your OS for weaknesses, but will not do much to protect you from web pages which exploit bugs in browsers.
Originally posted by basssman7:
If you want a good, reliable browser that will display pretty much any page on the internet the way it was designed to be seen...get IE7. If you are interested in toys and do not care to see things as they are intended...try firefox. :)
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I strongly disagree. If you want to see the web as Microsoft wants you to see it, by all means stick with IE. If you want a browser that renders pages faster (which has nothing to do with the fact you have broadband, which 80% of web users do not have), one which updates itself and any plugins you have installed, and is in general easier to use (as judged by several analysts). pick Firefox.
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09/27/2007 10:14:09 PM · #725 |
Wow. Imagine if we discussed photography with the apparent passion driven by which browser we use. And I say that as someone whose job centers on Web site creation.
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