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01/17/2004 10:18:28 PM · #1
to be more consistent.....

As posted the Advanced Editing Rules are:

The only thing you may not do to your photograph during post-shot editing is add text

then a few paragraphs down the line it says:
To summarize, here are the two important editing restrictions that are still in effect:
No text. No text may be added to your submission. This includes copyright statements.
Single photo. No multi-image compositions. Your submitted entry must come from a single photograph taken with your digital camera.


It is a bit confusing to see at the beginning that the only thing you can't do is add text, then later in the rules it says the 2 things you cant do are add text and use more than 1 photo.

Might help to avoid a few DQ's I would think
01/17/2004 10:23:35 PM · #2
Seems pretty clear to me if you read all the rules.
01/18/2004 03:07:22 AM · #3
It's only clear if you read the entire rules sections, skimming it or just reading the beginning of it could become issues down the road.
01/18/2004 03:17:23 AM · #4
When you submit your entry you certify that you have "read the rules," not that you've skimmed them or checked the first couple until you got bored or whatever.

If it is written in there, you are responsible for having read them, no one else is. There are several avenues open for asking for clarification. And if you're routinely going to sign off on things you haven't read, I have a couple of real estate deals I'd like you to consider ....
01/18/2004 07:50:04 AM · #5
I have to agree with rickhd13: of course everybody should have gone through the whole rules, but it̢۪s just a matter of quality of the writing.
Especially the rules section should be without any inconsistency and should be flawless.

Jörg
01/18/2004 07:54:43 AM · #6
Well it says 'photograph' and not 'photographs'. To me this implies that you may only use 1 photo, which is simply clarified in the second part.
01/18/2004 08:02:23 AM · #7
I think the rules are perfectly clear. The rule that you state reads 'Photograph', singular. If it had said photographs or multi-image composition, then it would be wrong. As it stands it is correct.

looks like I was a little too slow there :-)

Message edited by author 2004-01-18 08:05:17.
01/18/2004 08:06:07 AM · #8
I am just saying...why in one spot does it say the only thing you can't do then in another space it says there are 2 things.

I didn't mean to make a federal or national case out of this, just would like some things around here to be clear.

Maybe from here on out, any suggestions that I have I will either just email to the admins or keep it to myself.

My apologies to everyone for wasting all your precious time.


01/18/2004 12:18:01 PM · #9
No need to apologize (at least for that); your suggestion would probably be an improvement. Some of us still don't think it's a loophole allowing/disallowing anything.

I don't want to hear from some photographer whose multi-image entry is disqualified, whining about how "it SAID the ONLY thing I couldn't do was add text, right there at the top." It is my position that you are responsible for following all the rules, and asking for clarification if something seems contradictory.
01/18/2004 12:55:37 PM · #10
Originally posted by rickhd13:

I am just saying...why in one spot does it say the only thing you can't do then in another space it says there are 2 things.

I didn't mean to make a federal or national case out of this, just would like some things around here to be clear.

Maybe from here on out, any suggestions that I have I will either just email to the admins or keep it to myself.

My apologies to everyone for wasting all your precious time.


Didn't waste my time with the issue. I have to agree with you, that should be rewritten to avoid any problems in the future.

The AVERAGE adult brain only retains about one-third of what you hear and only retains about 1 paragraph per page of reading material each time it reads something. With that in mind even if all the rules are read only one paragraph or about 3 to 5 sentences will be retained.
01/18/2004 01:08:08 PM · #11
But this is DPC, where all the brains are above average ...
01/18/2004 01:11:04 PM · #12
Originally posted by GeneralE:

But this is DPC, where all the brains are above average ...


Well I don't know about above average, but I know mine's above the hairline!

LOL.
01/18/2004 01:48:19 PM · #13
You mean we have rules here?

Oh well, back to the ole drawing board.
01/18/2004 02:27:36 PM · #14
Originally posted by GeneralE:

But this is DPC, where all the brains are above average ...


The more above average a person is the less common sense they have. =o)
01/18/2004 02:39:36 PM · #15
I donlt think it's fair to say that it's confusing, especially since everyone is encouraged to read ALL the rules. At most, it is a slight mistake. My suggestion for this thread would be to retract the confusing bit since it's not if you do what you are supposed to do (which is read ALL the rules) but rather say what you put in your post- that the first sentence contradicts the latter sentences.

Let's call things the way they are & give people a little more credit. If you dont; read ALL th rules & you get DQ-ed, well, who's fault is that. I'm all for more personal responsibility here!

:)
01/18/2004 03:32:18 PM · #16
Originally posted by Rooster:

Let's call things the way they are & give people a little more credit. If you dont; read ALL th rules & you get DQ-ed, well, who's fault is that. I'm all for more personal responsibility here!


Well I will tell you, I am all for personal responsibility. In the December Free Study I was disqualified for using 2 photos...

And if you take a look at all the forum posts or take a poll of anyone & everyone here, you will see that I am not faulting anyone but myself...I looked at the rules and saw the first line that said the only thing that wasn;t allowed was text...no biggie - I submitted my photo, it was doing quite well with some great comments, and when requested I submitted the photo with an explanation what I did...I was DQed, it was my fault and no one elses.

All I am saying is that if there are 2 things that are not allowed, don't state that the ONLY thing that is not allowed is such & such & then 3 paragraphs later say something else.


01/18/2004 03:43:04 PM · #17
It should definitely be restated. The way it's written currently it's assuming you know and have read the basic rules.

Both basic and advanced rules have the same rules against multipy images and text. The advanced rules just has the added extra editing rule.

Rewording the rules so the lawyers are happy would be the best thing :)
01/18/2004 04:26:16 PM · #18
Hey Rick,

I wasn;t claiming anything about you or what you said & it was not a statement against you or what you said or even about you. Not sure if it was clear, but I did agree with you that there was a mistake & that it should be corrected. What I was trying to say was that it was more a mistake than confusing.

Hope you didnt take what I said personally or see it as a personal attack on you 'cause that was not my intention.
peace :)

Message edited by author 2004-01-18 16:28:17.
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