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08/07/2007 12:55:30 PM · #1 |
This is a two part question....I'm purposely leaving the second part out until I get a few answers to the first part.
I was asked to photograph a child and create birthday invitations with one of the photos. The other photos would be just be her birthday photos. The photos would be themed, but they are supplying clothing (of course). The photos would be taken outside in natural light. I've already scouted that it would cost $30 per 25 cards at Kinkos. I would have to drive at least an hour there and an hour back home.
My questions are:
1)How much would you charge to create the birthday invitations (with just one photo on the cards)?
2) How much would you charge for the birthday invitations AND birthday pictures? |
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08/07/2007 01:36:52 PM · #2 |
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08/07/2007 03:05:03 PM · #3 |
I'm by no means any expert here, but as I see it...
I'd charge an hourly rate for all the shooting, just like any other portrait session. Then I'd charge a print fee for the cards, whatever they actually cost plus a mark-up (like any other print the client ordered). And then if they wanted prints from the b-day pictures, I'd charge print fees for them as well; if they wanted to just buy the images and print them themselves, I'd charge a higher price to sell them the copyright.
As for print prices, I'd base that on the print shop you use. Figure out how much each size will cost you to have made, and then mark it up accordingly. There's some threads on here that can give you an idea - if I had my price sheet on hand I'd share it with you.
Hope this helps!
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08/07/2007 03:22:43 PM · #4 |
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Message edited by author 2007-08-07 15:24:14. |
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08/07/2007 03:23:13 PM · #5 |
Thanks Odyssey. now here is the second part (and third part).
The photos are for the sister of a girl that I just started seeing (which means I'm not doing them for free since we just started seeing eachother), but she is also one of my models whom I normally shoot free with the ability to use the photos for stock.
So it makes it difficult to mark them up much, especially when the girl is used to expecting photos for free. Now how do you break it to her that you are going to charge her for her sisters extra photos on top of the birthday cards????
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08/07/2007 03:25:58 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by Skip:
this is whack.
it needs some qualification...
is this person family/friend, friend of a friend, or a stranger?
what do they expect of you?
why do they want you to do this?
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if it's because you are related or friendly and they know you have a camera, simply ask them to cover the costs, including your gas.
if it's because they expect a professional job and are treating this as a professional relationship, ask them $500. if they don't want to pay, then simply suggest they get someone with a point and shoot to pop a snapshot and get the invites done a snapfish or winkflash or some other online service.
why the extreme? because it's going to take at least 4-5 hours of your time and there's not going to be much other benefit in it for you. no real portfolio value, no real word-of-mouth (unless you want to be making that trip on a regular basis). so, unless it's someone that you would do this for near free, you might as well be well-paid.
just my .02 ;-) |
Yeah I gave the first part without the relationship aspect of it because I wanted to get how much most people would normally charge. I've asked about doing stuff for friends before and everyone quoted free because they were a friend, but it takes time to go through editing all those photos and such without getting anything out of the deal. Yes you do alot of things for your friends, but sometimes they aint that close of friends, but you don't want to charge them full price. |
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08/07/2007 03:26:28 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by skip's original post:
this is whack.
it needs some qualification...
is this person family/friend, friend of a friend, or a stranger?
what do they expect of you?
why do they want you to do this?
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if it's because you are related or friendly and they know you have a camera, simply ask them to cover the costs, including your gas.
if it's because they expect a professional job and are treating this as a professional relationship, ask them $500. if they don't want to pay, then simply suggest they get someone with a point and shoot to pop a snapshot and get the invites done a snapfish or winkflash or some other online service.
why the extreme? because it's going to take at least 4-5 hours of your time and there's not going to be much other benefit in it for you. no real portfolio value, no real word-of-mouth (unless you want to be making that trip on a regular basis). so, unless it's someone that you would do this for near free, you might as well be well-paid.
just my .02 ;-) |
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now my second part
you'll be lucky if you can do it for cost + gas. take what you can get. you're hosed on this one. afterwards, though, you need to have a talk with your GF about what you can and can't do with your camera for free...
good luck... |
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08/07/2007 03:33:18 PM · #8 |
First if you were to turn over the image for their use... I would sell them a royalty free usage rights instead of the copywrite.
I would also have them sign a model release form for you to use the shots in your personal portfolio. IMO
As far as the Girlfriend's sister, I would invoice it full price and offer a discount coupon for a one time savings. Also let the GF know that she is special and gets a special discount that isn't offered to anyone else. Just an idea.
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