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01/17/2004 02:10:09 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by dani1989:
...I want a good camera, with very good lenses, light and not very expensive (my budget for the camera and some accesories is $1200).
After seeing a lot of cameras I opted for sony dsc-f717 but when I was completely sure I found out that the new sony dsc-f828 was available. And now I cannot make up my mind.... |
I agree with much of what Azrifel, willem and some of what Pedro have to say about the matter.
I would not recommend the 300D (Digital Rebel) over either the F717 or the F828 for someone in your situation. Even though I have free access to a 300D, I prefer to pack my F717 on most shoots. This is a very versatile, easy to use camera with an excellent lens and many features I can access and apply on the fly. I use it, pretty much, as an extension of my body.
One feature I can no longer do without is the swivel lens. It is just great to be able to simply adjust the tripod to any height, flip the lens and look through the viewfinder as if it were a sub scope or a microscope.
The Canon (to me) puts a considerable distance between my eye (and vision of what I intend the photo to look like) and a subject. I can't spot-meter and instantly see what my pictures look like. I miss the ability to be able to take night shots (and -frame) in low, even no-light conditions. I neither have the patience, temperament nor budget to acquire additional lenses only to have to switch them, tediously and precariously under foggy, cold or dusty conditions. I'm not prepared to deal with dust on the sensor and lens (a current issue with the 300D a friend uses). I do not like having to press my nose against the body of the camera in order to be able to look through the viewfinder. I don't like the plastic body either.
On the other hand, I am appreciating the particular silky image quality this camera is capable of, particular the shallow dof and many great macros I have seen come out of this camera. If I wanted a Canon, I'd be more likely to invest in a 10D or better and prepare for a proportionate learning curve.
The F828 (to me) strikes me as a beautiful and rock-solid evolve of the F717. Yet, for reasons already pointed below, I have decided to wait for its second generation.
Prior to purchasing the F717, I owned a 4 MP Sony S85. While not a F717 0r F828, I loved this camera for its (automatic) calibration. What I mean is that for the sole purpose of photographing foggy landscapes, with a very particular feel, at wide angle, it delivered wonderful and consistent results. The only reason I upgraded to the F717 was to increase the scope of varying genres I wanted to explore.
Message edited by author 2004-01-17 14:12:44.
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01/17/2004 04:16:52 PM · #27 |
I have loved my F828, though I have had it only about a month. A friend of mine has the Canon 300D and he loves it (he has only had it for about a month as well). You will find that cameras can be a religious subject. ;-)
Whatever camera you choose will likely provide you with tremendous experience. Have patience, don't be discouraged, and by all means take lots of pictures. I have hundreds of slides in my basement, only a few of which are any good. My digital camera's have been great...I see results more quickly, get rid of the bad shots, reshoot whenever necessary, and perform adjustments digitally (much simpler than in the darkroom).
If you look at the photos posted here on this site, and then take a look at the cameras used to take them, you will see that every camera (and more importantly it's owner) has the ability to take great photos.
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01/17/2004 04:26:37 PM · #28 |
i think that like others have said, you should probably consider your interest in photography first. if it is something that you truly want to learn, there are several choices out there to fit your budget. i started (started getting serious i mean) with the canon G2 (after doing lots of research--it seemed the best for me--plus i knew i wanted to upgrade in the canon family once i felt i deserved it! :) )--and i think at the time i spent about $1100 on the camera, cf card, reader, tripod, bag, etc.
what i disagree with, however, is the whole shooting on auto thing. i was determined to learn photography (still am!) so refused to shoot on auto, forced myself to shoot everything in manual. its really the only way to learn, i think, which is why dpc is such a good learning resource--gives you a chance to experiment in many different situations.
anyway--good luck and have fun with it! :)
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01/17/2004 05:44:57 PM · #29 |
I started a few years ago with an Nikon Coolpix 990 It has given me a lot of joy. But eventually limitations of an prosumer camera lead me to buying an Canon 10D. And boy oboy...EXELENT. But an camera like the Sony will make you very happy. But eventually you will upgrad to a DSLR.
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