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Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

01/15/2004 11:07:21 AM · #52

Originally posted by pitsaman:

Ritaard's comment on my "thirsty Bee": is this in first place?

Well I suppose for every negative there must be a positive Kosta! :P
Also by Ritaard:"why isn't this one up at the top? Its a much more efficient reflection of summer than that pathetic wasp." for this shot in the same challenge.

In fact Ritaard's comments are quite entertaining!

Message edited by author 2004-01-15 11:11:19.

Catherine

Sony DSC-F717

01/15/2004 11:14:24 AM · #53

What I notice is the higher the photo scores the more comments there are. By default, more positive comments. Since my challenge entries are not popular and do not score highly (in fact, I seem to be devolving!) I am getting fewer comments. Sort of ironic.

Anyway - I have never had really terrible comments (only 4 challenges entered) and my photography tends to be love it or hate it and is decidedly not traditional in most cases but in the last finished challenge (motion) I got one comment that was a little rude (the word "tacky") was mentioned. Of course, on that entry it seems very few people noticed the ornament was in motion and I got a lot of "topic"? sort of comments.

Some things are hard to say without _seeming_ to be being rude. Pet pictures, for example. Unless it is an overwhelmingly wonderful photograph I tend to just sag my shoulders a little and score it on its photographic merits. Let's say for the sake of argument a score is made of thirds: 1/3 topicality 1/3 creativity and uniqueness and 1/3 photographic (composition, lighting, exposure) quality - a pet picture tends to score virtually nothing on the first two categories. (One assumes there are exceptions for "pet photo" challenges).

Put any group of people who are competing for the same thing in a room and this will always happen. There are those who simply cannot compete with any sort of honor and who feel the need to drag others down in order to pull themselves up. I know, when I am voting on challenges that I have entered I would be lying if I said I did not sometimes find myself in a less than subjective judging position. I hope I find a way around it and grade according to merit and not my desire to place better.

THAT all said (Lord, I can go on!) ... what is the basic criteria for judging that people use? Is it primarily standard photographic "rules" or is there a more general first-strike kind of impression. Mine is very simple. "Would I hang that in my house?" Since I don't typically care for traditional photographic prints in general (landscapes and such) the ones that score very highly here tend not to impress me a lot in that context. Not to say they are not good - because most of them are amazingly good - just not MY cup of tea.

Catherine

jonpink

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX2

01/15/2004 12:15:34 PM · #54

Wow a big post there catherine ;)

I vote 100% on whether i like the image or not. 1 if I hate it - 10 if I love it.

None of this 1 point for technical, 1 point for color, 1 point for exposure blah blah.

Also meeting the challenge comes into it..

Olyuzi

Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX7

Panasonic Lumix G 14mm F2.5 ASPH

01/15/2004 01:03:19 PM · #55

I recently left a comment for rcrawford (I hope he doesn't mind me bringing this up) that I felt bad about leaving because I felt it was somewhat callous and was a remark concering a religous icon.

I was conflicted and mused about sending it for a while, but in the end, I decided to submit it because I did not think his photo did justice to the subject matter, although all others who commented disagreed with me.

I am wondering if you agree that my comment was uncalled for (in it's stated manner), or good criticism. Up to this point, Mr. Crawford has not contacted me to dispute the comment, and even marked it as helpful.

Message edited by author 2004-01-15 13:07:20.

zeuszen

Canon EOS-1Ds Mark II

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

01/15/2004 01:10:14 PM · #56

Originally posted by Olyuzi:

I recently left a comment... I am wondering if you agree that my comment was uncalled for (in it's stated manner), or good criticism. Up to this point, Mr. Crawford has not contacted me to dispute the comment, and even marked it as helpful.

It's marked helpful now, Oly. I find your comment very simple and direct, but also quite innocently phrased. (Opinion)

Olyuzi

Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX7

Panasonic Lumix G 14mm F2.5 ASPH

01/15/2004 01:36:40 PM · #57

Thanks, Zeuszen, I appreciate your reply but I'm not sure I would agree with "innocent" as I think my comment to rcrawford was meant to have some sting to it.

Originally posted by zeuszen:

Originally posted by Olyuzi:
I recently left a comment... I am wondering if you agree that my comment was uncalled for (in it's stated manner), or good criticism. Up to this point, Mr. Crawford has not contacted me to dispute the comment, and even marked it as helpful.

It's marked helpful now, Oly. I find your comment very simple and direct, but also quite innocently phrased. (Opinion)

texttexttext

01/15/2004 10:45:12 PM · #58

Originally posted by ahaze:

I get PM's from the photographers trying to justify why they did what they did. That kinda defeats the purpose. If you enter a contest, you are making it available for others to judge. If you can't handle it or feel the need to defend it, you shouldn't submit. If you don't like positive feedback either, then what's the point of being here!?

I'd be curious to know what everyone really *does* expect and want from the commenters.

We all want and expect creative and constructive criticism. A negative comment DOES NOT EQUATE intelligence or aid. Calling someone lazy is not constructive which seems to be a popular opinion around here at times. You may want to take another look at your past comments to ensure they were indeed made in an effort to help the photographer improve. Were they?

Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

01/15/2004 10:48:22 PM · #59

Originally posted by Olyuzi:

I am wondering if you agree that my comment was uncalled for (in it's stated manner), or good criticism. Up to this point, Mr. Crawford has not contacted me to dispute the comment, and even marked it as helpful]

I'm generally pretty hard to offend, but your comment you left at his pic really sickened my stomach as a Born Again Christian. It was very ignorant, not accusing you of being ignorant on a daily basis or as a whole, but wow...that was harsh. Not for the photographer, but for Him.

faidoi

Pentax K10D

01/15/2004 10:54:55 PM · #60

No comment that I feel is "worst". If the person took time to express their views/opinion of the shot it's not bad. "Sucks" takes about 1.2 seconds to type. So basically someone gave me 1.2 seconds of their time.

Olyuzi

Panasonic Lumix DMC-GX7

Panasonic Lumix G 14mm F2.5 ASPH

01/15/2004 11:10:35 PM · #61

Goldberry...What do you mean it was ignorant of me to make the comment I did? The comment referred to a symbol of a god, not of god himself/herself...not Christian tenets or practice.

Originally posted by GoldBerry:

Originally posted by Olyuzi:
I am wondering if you agree that my comment was uncalled for (in it's stated manner), or good criticism. Up to this point, Mr. Crawford has not contacted me to dispute the comment, and even marked it as helpful]

I'm generally pretty hard to offend, but your comment you left at his pic really sickened my stomach as a Born Again Christian. It was very ignorant, not accusing you of being ignorant on a daily basis or as a whole, but wow...that was harsh. Not for the photographer, but for Him.

HBunch

HP PhotoSmart 315

01/16/2004 01:06:10 AM · #62

I think the silliest comment I got on a photo was on my "Childhood without children" shot. The person said "perhaps photoshop could help "warm" the photo. I feel that the color, is almost as "unatural" as the light source..."

Under normal circumstances it would be a good comment...but the fact that I took this outside on a bright sunny day really makes it seem pointles. I can't get any more natural. LOL

inspzil

Olympus E-510

Sigma 50-500mm f/4.0-6.3 EX APO RF HSM for Olympus

01/16/2004 06:39:26 AM · #63

My least favorite comment came in the four challenge for this picture

It was a single word, "okay"
To make matters worse, it was the only comment I received in the whole challenge. Granted this person was the only one to make the "effort" of no less than 5 keystrokes. I mean they could've took the easy way out and just typed "ok". But what the hell is the point of saying that? Hbunch was kind enough to leave me another comment (out of pity) a couple weeks after the challenge was done just because she hated to see a photo with so few comments.

Maybe not my worst comment actually, but the one that sticks out in my mind above and beyond all the others.

Bob

ahaze

01/16/2004 08:40:46 AM · #64

Originally posted by GoldBerry:

GoldBerry, let it go. You made it clear you didn't like my comment on your "POV" entry in the PM you sent. I never called you lazy, so don't misquote me. Yes, all of my comments were made in an effort to help photographers improve. If you aren't thick skinned enough to accept that your shot is unimaginitive, that's not my problem. Again, you should follow your own New Year's Resolution.

01/16/2004 10:27:49 AM · #65

I wasn't referring to you specifically when I was speaking of the Lazy comments since I have seen that posted many times. You never commented on my imagination, you commented on my effort. I have no problem with criticisms that help, read my other posts here, and in essence you did call me lazy by saying I didn't put any effort into my shot.

Message edited by author 2004-01-16 10:37:53.

ahaze

01/16/2004 11:00:12 AM · #66

Read the comment again. A voter's opinion is just that- their opinion. There is no point arguing it. I'll say no more on this topic to you.