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08/14/2007 12:55:12 PM · #26
Bob Atkin's page now reports a possible UPC code for the 40D, and that it will likely be announced Aug 20 or 21.

Interestingly, the UPC code matches that of the supposed Best Buy sheet (above), but it cannot be confirmed that these are from different sources.

While 10MP, a dust system, and the latest Digic processor don't get me excited, if the 40D has the 14-bit A/D, that'd be a significant feature.

I'm a little annoyed at the lack of 5D upgrade buzz, though... At 2 years old, they're really milking that one. I really hope it gets an upgrade...

One(ish) week to go!
08/14/2007 01:11:50 PM · #27
Me, too, smurfguy, although I'm still up in the air over whether to buy the 40D or the hopefully-cheaper-b/c-of-the-40D 30D.

What's a 14-bit A/D?

Message edited by author 2007-08-14 13:13:02.
08/14/2007 01:30:23 PM · #28
Most cameras have a 12-bit A/D, which converts electrical charges from the sensor to digital format. A 14-bit A/D has 2 more bits of data output for each pixel, which increases the camera's dynamic range... that is, more detail is the bright and dark areas.

Also note that JPEG chops this to 8-bits anyway, so it's really only of use for RAW shooters.

I believe the 1D MkIII has a 14-bit A/D, although I don't see it listed in the feature sheet, so maybe it's not a big deal?

Still, every little bit helps - pun intended. =)
08/16/2007 07:48:09 PM · #29
Well, maybe the length of time they are taking on the 5D upgrade means it will be a real one instead of a wimpy one like the 30D was to the 20D.

I'll be disappointed with anything less than 16MP...
08/16/2007 07:52:30 PM · #30
Wont live view slow down the time between photos. Thats what I didnt like about my digital, even though it was handy.
08/16/2007 07:55:43 PM · #31
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Well, maybe the length of time they are taking on the 5D upgrade means it will be a real one instead of a wimpy one like the 30D was to the 20D.

I'll be disappointed with anything less than 16MP...


You mean you'll be disappointed with anything less than 16MP at 5D price. 16MP is out there if you've got the deep pockets.

I'm not holding my breath...
08/16/2007 07:58:24 PM · #32
Well, I work at a best buy, and the photo they had on gizmodo is a shot from a system you use to look up info through BB computers only. And once something is in that system, you can print a price tag. Some things, like DVDs, are in that system months before they're released.

It's very possible it's in there, and I will investigate when I go into work on Saturday. :)
08/16/2007 07:59:38 PM · #33
I'm starting to think i should have saved up for the 40D, that is if it comes out. But it'll probably quite pricey anyways.
08/16/2007 08:47:23 PM · #34
The price seems a bit high and what makes me think this is still a pipe dream is that there is no press release anywhere.

I would think if something was going to hit the shelves Sept 2 it would have already been announced.

Message edited by author 2007-08-16 20:47:35.
08/17/2007 12:37:10 AM · #35
Originally posted by DrAchoo:



I'll be disappointed with anything less than 16MP...


Why would you want your sensor sites to be smaller so your S/N ratio would be lower? And more mpix will really tax your glass to the limits.
08/17/2007 12:53:14 AM · #36
//www.infodigitalcamera.com/40d.GIF

who comes up with these graphs?

Message edited by author 2007-08-17 00:53:46.
08/17/2007 01:05:03 AM · #37
Interesting, but... it's Canon. Why bother? It'll be made of the same plastic as my daughter's toy boat and will be put together with a glue stick.

Edited to say: Just kiddin', I still like Canon but every brand specific discussion needs a comment like that.

Message edited by author 2007-08-17 01:06:00.
08/17/2007 11:16:25 AM · #38
Originally posted by fir3bird:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:



I'll be disappointed with anything less than 16MP...


Why would you want your sensor sites to be smaller so your S/N ratio would be lower? And more mpix will really tax your glass to the limits.


Because we're capable of doing it. I need the MP for enlargements. The current 12.8 MP cannot truly compete with MF at large enlargements. Of course I don't want the quality of the picture to go down, but with Digic III and 2+ years of advancement over the 1Ds, I think it's quite feasible. (At least I'm hoping it is)
08/17/2007 11:45:45 AM · #39
I read somewhere that, even with increasing megapixels, they still manage to reduce noise, increase fps, etc. It's surprising that they can do this - it's a testament to their engineering design.

Now, that's not to say that they're design is perfect. Who puts a "print" button on a $2500 camera? =)

I'm still hopeful of a 5D replacement. It might be that the reason we haven't heard a lot about it is that nobody knows what it will be called. =) There's too many ways to spell 5D Mark II (or 5DMKII, or 5D Mark 2, or 4D.)... Wishful thinking...
08/17/2007 11:09:31 PM · #40
Originally posted by smurfguy:

I read somewhere that, even with increasing megapixels, they still manage to reduce noise, increase fps, etc. It's surprising that they can do this - it's a testament to their engineering design.

Now, that's not to say that they're design is perfect. Who puts a "print" button on a $2500 camera? =)

I'm still hopeful of a 5D replacement. It might be that the reason we haven't heard a lot about it is that nobody knows what it will be called. =) There's too many ways to spell 5D Mark II (or 5DMKII, or 5D Mark 2, or 4D.)... Wishful thinking...


Maybe someone said four D, and someone thought they said forty, then added the D at the end since all canon slr's have it.
08/17/2007 11:59:39 PM · #41
upcdatabase.com reports 0013803086607 as the UPC for the Canon 40D.

Interestingly, it also lists 0013803086706 as an EOS 7D.

Both UPCs were added to the database today. I do not know the source, but anyone can submit so it could be fake.

~Terry

Message edited by author 2007-08-18 00:02:40.
08/19/2007 06:35:37 AM · #42
found this interesting... Canon 40D on Amazon.
08/19/2007 06:59:23 AM · #43
Originally posted by ben4345:

found this interesting... Canon 40D on Amazon.


Very interesting!!

From the article:

The speed of the EOS 40D SLR comes from Canon's balanced combination of its latest processor, DIGIC IIII, DDR SDRAM high-speed memory, four-channel-per-line sensor readout, and two separate motors for shutter and mirror operation.

Has the two seperate motors for shutter and mirror operation been used on any other Canon camera or is this new technology?

The Canon EOS 40D camera offers ISO speeds from ISO 100 to ISO 1600 in 1/3-stop increments. Users can also opt for a high-speed setting of ISO 3200.For the first time in any EOS camera, the 40D model offers Auto ISO capability in Creative Zone exposure modes. This valuable new feature adjusts the ISO speed to the optimal setting based on low light or shaky shooting conditions. Additionally, the EOS 40D provides full-time display of the active ISO speed setting, both in the viewfinder as well as on the top LCD data panel.

This could be very handy for some sports photography, this camera is starting to sound better the more I here about it.
08/19/2007 08:11:11 AM · #44
Now I will upgrade.... ;-)
08/19/2007 09:14:32 AM · #45
Ohhh yeah.
What would the
Originally posted by amazon.com:

two interchangeable focusing screens in addition to the standard precision matte screen
mean? Can they be switched on and off with a button?
08/19/2007 09:36:16 AM · #46
Have always been a viewfinder kinda guy but the few times I've tried liveview on my mark III it's been fantastic - the resolution ( and size ) of the lcd display makes for very good ( manual ) focusing accuracy.
I also used the tv out cable and fed it into a 32" tv with very pleasing results also.
08/19/2007 12:11:13 PM · #47
Amazon screen grab
08/19/2007 12:12:25 PM · #48
Originally posted by ben4345:

found this interesting... Canon 40D on Amazon.


They took that down.. :(

Originally posted by gloda:

Ohhh yeah.
What would the
Originally posted by amazon.com:

two interchangeable focusing screens in addition to the standard precision matte screen


mean? Can they be switched on and off with a button?


No, that means you can take the standard screen out and put a new one in.

Originally posted by keegbow:

Has the two seperate motors for shutter and mirror operation been used on any other Canon camera or is this new technology?


Nope, the Canon 1Dmk3 has two seperate motors for the shutter and for the mirror in order to get such high speeds.
08/19/2007 12:16:28 PM · #49
Amazon Spills full details

Analog to digital conversion: 14 bits per channel (16,382 separate tones from brightest to darkest, for each channel)

Sweet!

Message edited by author 2007-08-19 12:17:31.
08/19/2007 01:02:54 PM · #50
from the Amazon leak:

ΓΆ€ΒΆ Live View viewing options: Camera's LCD monitor; computer monitor, via USB; computer monitor, via wireless transmitter WFT-E3A
ΓΆ€ΒΆ Manual focus: Viewed on LCD monitor, with option to magnify focus area 5x or 10x


If this is true, it's terrific.

R.
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