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07/28/2007 01:12:22 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Something tells me that your attitude might just someday land you in a predicament you might just not be prepared for my friend.
You really ought to limit your "educational" endeavours to things that you really know... like photography, and leave legal issues to people that actually know the law.
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Like I said earlier, never gonna resist arrest or do anything stupid. And,as far as I know running my mouth is protected under 1st amendment law ;-)
Ofcourse, I might want to stay away from LAPD. Not real fond of the whole beatdown scenario.
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07/28/2007 02:22:12 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Ofcourse, I might want to stay away from LAPD. Not real fond of the whole beatdown scenario. |
Just keep screaming the mantra, "Can't we all just get along?" That might at least lighten up on the beating...
Message edited by author 2007-07-28 14:22:33. |
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07/30/2007 10:17:01 AM · #28 |
| NYC deadline for feedback is 8/3. You can make your voice heard on this issue and perhaps stop the change from going through (hahaha, silly little citizens) via this page: //www.nyc.gov/html/mail/html/mailfilmcom.html |
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07/30/2007 11:47:20 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by rex:
If you don't like it then move.
Originally posted by pineapple:
Our NYC mayor thinks he is some kind of dictator. This is simply a squeeze shakedown job. Have you paid any NYC real estate taxes in recent years? I could go on a ways. There is a trend of capricious advantage taking by this administration in everything from city admin to education. From someone who has lived and worked here since 1988. |
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Wow, brilliant response.
"Love it or leave it!"
Yeah, good one there. |
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07/30/2007 12:14:34 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by routerguy666:
NYC deadline for feedback is 8/3. You can make your voice heard on this issue and perhaps stop the change from going through (hahaha, silly little citizens) via this page: //www.nyc.gov/html/mail/html/mailfilmcom.html |
Thank you, I filled out the form. My message said:
"I understand that new laws are being considered regarding photographers rights. As an amateur photographer and long-time resident of New York City, I would protest any law that might interfere with my freedom to use a tripod on the sidewalks of New York without first getting some sort of permit or permission."
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07/30/2007 12:33:18 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by citymars:
Originally posted by routerguy666:
NYC deadline for feedback is 8/3. You can make your voice heard on this issue and perhaps stop the change from going through (hahaha, silly little citizens) via this page: //www.nyc.gov/html/mail/html/mailfilmcom.html |
Thank you, I filled out the form. My message said:
"I understand that new laws are being considered regarding photographers rights. As an amateur photographer and long-time resident of New York City, I would protest any law that might interfere with my freedom to use a tripod on the sidewalks of New York without first getting some sort of permit or permission." |
Hmm. You really mean that? "Any" law? So you're in favor of photographers setting up tripods in the middle of the sidewalk in the middle of the business day in, say, Times Square? If so, then I seriously disagree with you. Imagine 20 people doing that and the safety hazard as people try to maneuver around them, step into traffic, etc.
I think the problem with this regulation isn't so much the intent (yes, I'm guessing the intent is to wring some money out of commercial operations), but the wording. When protesting such poor wording, we have to be equally careful not to overstate.
On a side note, it's interesting how things differ. Jason, here in Washington, there's a park right off the end of the runway at Nat'l Airport. People go there all the time to shoot pictures of planes landing and taking off at altitudes of a few hundred feet (myself included). No permit, no telling anyone in advance.
And downtown, you can photograph whatever you want. I was at the White House a couple of days ago. I walked up to 2 bike cops and asked if I could take their picture. No problem.
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07/30/2007 01:29:04 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by rswank:
Originally posted by rex:
If you don't like it then move.
Originally posted by pineapple:
Our NYC mayor thinks he is some kind of dictator. This is simply a squeeze shakedown job. Have you paid any NYC real estate taxes in recent years? I could go on a ways. There is a trend of capricious advantage taking by this administration in everything from city admin to education. From someone who has lived and worked here since 1988. |
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Wow, brilliant response.
"Love it or leave it!"
Yeah, good one there. |
I guess we all have differing views as to what constitutes a good response in any given scenario.
Personally, I do not share the views which you seemingly share with Rex, because I am a firm believer that one does not solve anything by simply avoiding the issue, and moving is just that... avoiding the issue.
If one has a problem with any given situation, is convinced as to the validity of their cause, and truly desires to alleviate what they consider an injustice, then it behooves them to have their voices heard and strive to rectify the problem at hand.
To each their own I guess, but I am not one who is apt to move everytime I find something I don't like in my environment, as I don't believe I could afford all of those moves.
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07/30/2007 01:36:29 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by levyj413:
Hmm. You really mean that? "Any" law? So you're in favor of photographers setting up tripods in the middle of the sidewalk in the middle of the business day in, say, Times Square? If so, then I seriously disagree with you. Imagine 20 people doing that and the safety hazard as people try to maneuver around them, step into traffic, etc. |
Currently photographers have that option, and it is not a problem. I suppose one could arrange for 20 people to block pedestrian traffic with their tripods in order to make a point (if one was the sort of person who needed to be right), then yes, that would create a problem. In reality, one is more apt to have to step into traffic to avoid sidewalk vendors, sketch artists, and professional movie crews (not to mention herds of tourists). |
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07/30/2007 02:00:01 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Originally posted by rswank:
Originally posted by rex:
If you don't like it then move.
Originally posted by pineapple:
Our NYC mayor thinks he is some kind of dictator. This is simply a squeeze shakedown job. Have you paid any NYC real estate taxes in recent years? I could go on a ways. There is a trend of capricious advantage taking by this administration in everything from city admin to education. From someone who has lived and worked here since 1988. |
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Wow, brilliant response.
"Love it or leave it!"
Yeah, good one there. |
I guess we all have differing views as to what constitutes a good response in any given scenario.
Personally, I do not share the views which you seemingly share with Rex, because I am a firm believer that one does not solve anything by simply avoiding the issue, and moving is just that... avoiding the issue.
If one has a problem with any given situation, is convinced as to the validity of their cause, and truly desires to alleviate what they consider an injustice, then it behooves them to have their voices heard and strive to rectify the problem at hand.
To each their own I guess, but I am not one who is apt to move everytime I find something I don't like in my environment, as I don't believe I could afford all of those moves.
Ray |
Sorry but I thought that was obviously sarcastic.
I found the "if you don't like it then move" response pretty ignorant, hence the "love it or leave it" quote which in my head was accented very thickly in high hick.
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07/30/2007 02:04:48 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by rswank:
Sorry but I thought that was obviously sarcastic.
I found the "if you don't like it then move" response pretty ignorant, hence the "love it or leave it" quote which in my head was accented very thickly in high hick. |
My deepest apologies... I really should not respond to comments while at work... particularly on a day where the auditors are buzzing about.
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07/30/2007 02:09:18 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by RayEthier:
... particularly on a day where the auditors are buzzing about.
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You need a big flyswatter for those. |
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07/30/2007 11:26:49 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by levyj413:
On a side note, it's interesting how things differ. Jason, here in Washington, there's a park right off the end of the runway at Nat'l Airport. People go there all the time to shoot pictures of planes landing and taking off at altitudes of a few hundred feet (myself included). No permit, no telling anyone in advance.
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I mostly call the cops in advance not because of the police, but because of the concerned public. We have a stretch of road next to the runways like you, but I'm talking about shooting in the airport or the parking garage. I just think someone will eventually freak out and call someone and then they be "oh yeah, someone called us about that". |
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