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07/22/2007 04:20:35 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by xianart:
Originally posted by ursula:
Originally posted by xianart:
i don't crop at all - i compose full frame, and stick a white border on in the ratio needed. |
He, he, yeah. So where did you get that square sensor? |
ok, except for the square ones. ;~P often, what i'll do is do all the processing, then duplicate the pic as a photoshop copy, so all the layers are intact, then crop or not.
but, the majority of my images are full frame, not cropped at all. like this one  .
i have a final high quality JPEG of this on file, with the rebate border, and huge white background. then, if someone wants to buy an 8x10, then i put a crop the whole thing down to 8x10, save as, and voila. that way i only do one version of an image, and i don't have to alter my composition to fit the ratio of the paper. that, i can't stand doing. yes, it comes out a little smaller on the paper, but my whole image is there.
i do this with all my work. just call it the control freak, darkroom geek left from so many years inhaling developer, stop and fix... |
Makes sense :) |
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07/22/2007 04:27:35 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by ursula:
He, he, yeah. So where did you get that square sensor? |
o, yeah, didn't you know? i have a hasselblad...
hah.
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07/22/2007 04:36:33 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by biteme:
Originally posted by jrdawson:
Originally posted by biteme:
ok... but:
you've been working VERY hard on a photo, and have that magic-cropped part of the image still there. Will the adjustments made on the photo be visible on that part too? Otherwise that might be even a bigger pain.. |
I'm not sure what you're asking? |
I tried it. The adjustments made on the photo will not apply to the hidden cropped part of the image. So it's pretty useless for me ;) |
If I make a new adjustment layer on a cropped image and then restore the full image, my adjustment layer applies to the whole image, not just the cropped part I orginally worked on. So I'm not sure what you are trying to do.
Now that I've played around with this a bit, the only strangeness I find is that the Restore All option doesn't work if you only have a background layer. Background layers apparently work differently in photoshop and you can't use Retore All. If you are going to use this option, I suggest highlighting the background layer and right click it and choose "Layer from background". Everything shoudl work fine then. |
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07/22/2007 04:55:34 PM · #29 |
AS I do most of my processing at the RAW conversion step I crop either in that step or immediately after saving as a TIFF. I then do final processing (normally minor) in PSE4. If I ever need to have the photo in a different size I just go back to the RAW.
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07/22/2007 05:02:06 PM · #30 |
I'm a strong believer in working on the full framer version and cropping at the end of the workflow. I've always done in that way. Only exception being if I need to rotate and/or skew to square horizons and/or verticals: I do that as a first step and then crop the minimum needed to get rid of the empty corners that show up.
Even on those cases where where a heavily-cropped image may be processed somewhat differently than an uncropped version, I find it more effective to reopen those adjustment layers after cropping and fine-tune them at that point.
I absolutely HATE working on cropped images, then finding out I need to change the crop after.
R.
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07/22/2007 05:03:56 PM · #31 |
I find cropping very difficult.
I do it right at the beginning, in photoshop, and then when i'm (finally) happy i process the remainder of the image. |
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07/22/2007 05:12:38 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by jrdawson:
Sweeeettttt!!!
So I found out how you are really supposed to do this:
Courtesy of: graphicssoft.about.com
Using the crop tool on the toolbox, select the region you want to crop to. Then from the option bar at the top, choose 'Hide' instead of the default 'Delete'. To bring back the full image, select Image > Reveal All from the menus.
This option is awesome, as it even remembers the masks you set up outside that region and brings them back once you restore it. So you can crop whenever you want, and you never lose any data. |
I learned something new today! :-)
What's cool is that global adjustments (even if they aren't layered adjuments) such as performing a hue/sat or levels or curves adjustment, gets applied to the entire image, EVEN the hidden portion.
Of course, if you do any actual editing on the image, you may in fact be setting yourself up for some heavy duty work later on if you decide to recrop it. But at least some of the work would still be salvaged.
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07/22/2007 05:16:23 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by jbsmithana:
AS I do most of my processing at the RAW conversion step I crop either in that step or immediately after saving as a TIFF. I then do final processing (normally minor) in PSE4. If I ever need to have the photo in a different size I just go back to the RAW. |
My initial workflow is very much like this. And if the question had been asked differently, I would have been forced to answer that I crop first!
In raw, I quite frequently crop my images for display as "proofs" that I show to the customer. But the raw file is still intact. And quite often, when a customer orders an image, I'll go back to the original raw file and re-export it as the full size image and do my manipulations there. (unless, of course, my original crop gives me exactly what the customer wants)
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