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07/18/2007 09:31:27 AM · #26 |
Hey ShannonLee,
After reading all of your comments, it's pretty clear you know what you want to do, you just want to do it in the right place. I can't help with the place, but I want to encourage you, like Brad, to follow your heart - especially when the means are being taken care of. And, the 'where' really isn't as important as you might think. You will find teachers wherever you end up. The right ones will come to you if you are paying attention - and I think you are. |
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07/18/2007 09:56:08 AM · #27 |
If you have favorite photographers, research their biographies. Look at where they are teaching and/or where they went to school.
For example, I love the work of Stuart Rome. By performing web searches, I can find out where he went to school, where he teaches, who was his mentor.
Inliquid
Drexel University
Light Work |
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07/18/2007 09:57:02 AM · #28 |
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07/18/2007 10:09:22 AM · #29 |
About a year ago I started looking into Art schools, and there are many out there. Remember not to only think of their programs, but of their location too.
Look into the Hallmark Institue of Photography (they have a great student gallery), but I believe they are a 10month school where they teach you the actual taking photos and the business of it and nothing else (so no English, Math, etc..). Hallmark
I personally wasnt willing to pay the huge tuition the Art Schools ask, so I desided to just get rid of my basics in a community college and then see what I do. :P
Good luck Shannon ;)
Message edited by author 2007-07-18 10:10:39.
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07/18/2007 10:30:38 AM · #30 |
My only worry about going back to school is that ive been out of the school environment for 4 years, now Im jumping back in (with a full course load.) Hopefully it wont be too overwhelming at first. |
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07/18/2007 11:37:13 AM · #31 |
AJ- where are you going to school?
Mary- thank you very much, thats a great thing to keep in mind :)
Justin- i've looked at hallmark quite a bit, its definitely a possibilty for me. do you think you'll end up going to an art school? thats a smart call not doing your general ed at an art school... plus i've had really good luck with community colleges for general ed classes. hope its workin out great for ya :) |
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07/18/2007 11:45:08 AM · #32 |
Just a small school near me - Wilmington College (New Castle, Delaware), its not an Art School so much as they offer a photography major. Since I already have a degree, im doing this more for fun (an expensive fun, but fun) and I am really hoping to learn the "right" way to do things. |
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07/18/2007 11:45:26 AM · #33 |
What does the Tuition at Hallmark look like? |
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07/18/2007 11:47:49 AM · #34 |
sounds like fun aj!!! goood luck!!! im sure you'll do awesome~
im still looking into the hallmark tuition... sometimes they dont make that info readliy available. |
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07/18/2007 11:58:13 AM · #35 |
Yeah, I didnt see it on the website, which is why I have a feeling its a lot. A lot a lot. |
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07/18/2007 06:59:43 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by ShannonLee:
Justin- i've looked at hallmark quite a bit, its definitely a possibilty for me. do you think you'll end up going to an art school? thats a smart call not doing your general ed at an art school... plus i've had really good luck with community colleges for general ed classes. hope its workin out great for ya :) |
Ya the community college was a good decision for me, its going great. I dont think I will ever go to an art school, I dont want to be paying student loans all my life (plus I think in photography its the images that count, the piece of paper might say u completed photography courses, but if ur images arent good, you wont get hired, I might be wrong though)....I will probably major in something to do with nature preservation, and use my photography with it.
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07/18/2007 07:22:24 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by elsapo: Originally posted by ShannonLee:
Justin- i've looked at hallmark quite a bit, its definitely a possibilty for me. do you think you'll end up going to an art school? thats a smart call not doing your general ed at an art school... plus i've had really good luck with community colleges for general ed classes. hope its workin out great for ya :) |
Ya the community college was a good decision for me, its going great. I dont think I will ever go to an art school, I dont want to be paying student loans all my life (plus I think in photography its the images that count, the piece of paper might say u completed photography courses, but if ur images arent good, you wont get hired, I might be wrong though)....I will probably major in something to do with nature preservation, and use my photography with it. |
glad its working out for you! nature preservation sounds like a really awesome way make a difference with your photographs. you certainly have the talent. and, yes, i agree, it is more about the images than the piece of paper. it might be nice to have both though :) good luck with all that you do, man :) |
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07/19/2007 03:17:24 AM · #38 |
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07/20/2007 07:40:34 PM · #39 |
I do not know if this has been said yet or not, but the number photography school in the nation is in cali. Brooks is what I think it's called. the price tag is high, but you leave with all your equipment and have he oppertunity to learn on the stuff you buy while your there.
if you are looking for some help google mac on campus, it's a photography comp for people enrolled full time majoring in photography. find some you like and look at the school they go to
photography school changed my life, I don't know what I would do if I couldn't be a photographer
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07/20/2007 08:21:27 PM · #40 |
I have a couple of random opinions, take them as opinions, and nothing else...
Think about what you want to do with your photography, before you decide what education you need. Do you want a artsy 'fine arts' degree, or do you want hard core technical instruction, or something in between? Once you know what you want, finding the right school will be much easier.
On a different topic, the California community college system is one of the best bargains around. Especially in a field like this where ability is more important than a prestigious degree, the CC system does a good job of preparing people to get out there and start working.
And now for the opposite opinion....regardless of what you do in photography, consider finishing your bachelor's degree in *something*, whether it's in photography or something else. 10 or 20 years from now (yes, some of us live that long ;-) you'll find yourself wanting to go into a field that requires more education than you have. Your choices are much better if you already have the bachelor's degree, and don't have to start over from scratch. |
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07/20/2007 09:26:37 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by gi_joe05: I do not know if this has been said yet or not, but the number photography school in the nation is in cali. Brooks is what I think it's called. the price tag is high, but you leave with all your equipment and have he oppertunity to learn on the stuff you buy while your there.
if you are looking for some help google mac on campus, it's a photography comp for people enrolled full time majoring in photography. find some you like and look at the school they go to
photography school changed my life, I don't know what I would do if I couldn't be a photographer |
thanks, i'll be sure to check out that mac on campus thing. sounds interesting. |
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07/20/2007 09:29:49 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by annpatt: I have a couple of random opinions, take them as opinions, and nothing else...
Think about what you want to do with your photography, before you decide what education you need. Do you want a artsy 'fine arts' degree, or do you want hard core technical instruction, or something in between? Once you know what you want, finding the right school will be much easier.
On a different topic, the California community college system is one of the best bargains around. Especially in a field like this where ability is more important than a prestigious degree, the CC system does a good job of preparing people to get out there and start working.
And now for the opposite opinion....regardless of what you do in photography, consider finishing your bachelor's degree in *something*, whether it's in photography or something else. 10 or 20 years from now (yes, some of us live that long ;-) you'll find yourself wanting to go into a field that requires more education than you have. Your choices are much better if you already have the bachelor's degree, and don't have to start over from scratch. |
hey ann, thank you for your input! much appreciated. i've heard on several occassions now that the CC system in Cali is pretty darn good, so I'll keep an open mind to that! the only problem i see in that is like you mentioned, I won't be able to get my BA there... which is pretty darn important in todays world. Thanks again for your input, I'll continue to weigh my options and see what'll work best :) |
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07/21/2007 10:57:50 PM · #43 |
So, I've been taking into consideration what all of you have said. Also, have been talking to lotsa professionals whose work I admire. I am still doing lots of research and what not on schools but I am noticing that my search is becoming geared more towards a photojournalism program. There are many public universities that have some really really great journalism programs with a concentration in photojournalism... and they are much much cheaper than art and design schools. Right now I'm mostly looking into San Francisco State University and University of Hawaii.
Anyways, I just wanted to keep ya'lls posted and say thanks to all of you for the wonderful input and different points you've been brining up. It's pushed me to really look at my style of photography, what my goals are, and figure out where I will be most successful. THANNNNKKZZZ :)
-shan
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08/29/2007 09:40:28 PM · #44 |
incase any of you are sitting on the edge of your chairs wondering about my plans ;) ;) ;) here's an update:
i've just applied to:
San Francisco State University
Sacramento State University &
University of Hawaii
i will soon be applying to:
Cal Poly - San Luis Obispo (so i can be like Joe :) )
Seattle University
Corcoran College of Art & Design (Washington DC)
Academy of Art University (San Fran)
and there may be a few others that come up along the way!
All of which have great Photography, Photojournalism, and/or Journalism programs. at this point I don't really have a first choice, they all sound good to me :) hopefully i'll find out soon where (if) i get accepted so that i can start visiting the schools... i definitely wouldn't mind having to take a weekend here and there to go to any of those places :) :) :)
Message edited by author 2007-08-29 21:46:27. |
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08/29/2007 10:06:25 PM · #45 |
Congrats on taking the first big step! Keep us updated so we can have a big cyber-party when you get accepted!
*tosses confetti*
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10/26/2007 02:30:24 AM · #46 |
UPDATE:
so. after much contemplation. i have come upon a not-final-but-pretty-final decision (im just afraid of commitment heh).
the plan is...........
live at home and attend school as a photojournalism major at California State University - Sacramento. By living at home and attending a state school versus an Art & Design school I will be saving BIG BUCKS (savings upwards of $25,000 a year). I plan to put some of this saved money towards studying abroad, travelling, buying awesome equiptment like a Canon 5d :) and attending several photography workshops and seminars put on by organizations such as Women in Photojournalism, Wedding Photojournalist Association, Photographic Center Northwest, & National Press Photographers Association. Andddd I'll probably throw an internship in there somewhere.
so :) thats the plan as of now. thought i might keep ya posted :)
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10/26/2007 02:33:46 AM · #47 |
Shanny - you are a STAR to me and whatever you choose I KNOW you will put ALL of you into it and reap the rewards - as will the we as we get to watch you grow.
ENJOY! |
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10/26/2007 03:09:46 AM · #48 |
Originally posted by ShannonLee:
i guess on a more personal level... i'm barely 20 years old... and i just dont feel quite prepared enough as a photographer or a person to face the "real world" as a freelance photographer or owning my own business. |
So, go take a job at a studio or a newspaper or try to find a mentor. I believe with your skeeeelz at your age, you'd be better off as someone's apprentice than in a school.
If you feel your skills could improve, might I suggest NYIP, while you are doing one of the above?
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10/26/2007 03:29:55 AM · #49 |
Whatever you do, you will do great, Shanny! I fully believe you're one of a small number of people I have "met" here that I am someday going to say "I knew her when..." with a big ol' grin. I know nobody more full of life than little miss Shanny Lee! :) My best wishes to you.
-Ken (Art) |
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10/29/2007 06:23:46 PM · #50 |
breaking news...
i just got a letter from the University of Hawaii.
i got in!
and
i got a scholarship that would cover half my tuition!!
eeeeeps. this puts a damper on my almost-but-not-so-final decision to stay home and attend sac state.
looks like i've got some decision making to do. |
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