Front Page Picture; No Credit!! - DPChallenge Forums

Canon EF 135mm f/2.0L USM

06/29/2007 09:00:18 AM · #1

One of my pictures is on the front page of the Washington Post today. OK, below the fold, next to a blurb for a story on A3, but still, it's ON THE FRONT PAGE. With no photo credit :-((( I send them a picture every week for the Fairfax Extra section and apparently someone else picked it up as a nice cat picture for their story. I have an email in to my contacts to ask to whom I should address my concern (like that grammar?), but really, it's a missed opportunity that no published correction on an inside page can fix. But, I've just told all of you, so when you see the nice picture of the orange and white kitty on the front page remember it's MINE :-)

lovethelight

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

06/29/2007 09:09:47 AM · #2

awww dang, sorry about the missed photo credit. its a cute picture! i would write the paper or something, i dunno this hasn;t happened to me yet so I am not sure what the best course of action should be

NVPhoto

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

06/29/2007 09:32:15 AM · #3

seeing that you submit stuff without them asking for it specifically, I don't think they need to print a photo credit.

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm f/1.4G

06/29/2007 09:44:13 AM · #4

Originally posted by Jmnuggy:

seeing that you submit stuff without them asking for it specifically, I don't think they need to print a photo credit.

No, they did ask for it. It's a regular feature and I supply the photo.

kashi

Nikon D60

06/29/2007 09:55:04 AM · #5

Originally posted by Jmnuggy:

seeing that you submit stuff without them asking for it specifically, I don't think they need to print a photo credit.

Why should unsolicited (though this apparently is not the case here anyhow) equal uncredited ?

hankk

Canon EOS-5D

Sigma 24-70mm f/2.8 EX Aspherical DF for Canon

06/29/2007 11:22:43 AM · #6

You probably own the copyright on that picture -- check the rules that the paper had for the contest (or whater) that you submitted the pictures for.

_eug

Nikon D50

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

06/29/2007 11:28:43 AM · #7

Originally posted by hankk:

You probably own the copyright on that picture -- check the rules that the paper had for the contest (or whater) that you submitted the pictures for.

Reread what Mary is saying. It's not for a Photo contest. It's for a regularly occurring feature in a neighborhood section of the paper.

Where's Skip when you need him? lol

Nobody

Pentax K-S2

Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 EX DG APO IF for Pentax

06/29/2007 11:51:11 AM · #8

regardless, congrats on the front page.

levyj413

Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max

Tamron SP AF 17-50mm f/2.8 Di II LD Aspherical (IF) for Nikon

06/29/2007 12:01:45 PM · #9

Sorry for the lack of credit, but congrats!

Skip

Canon EOS-1D X

Canon EF 300mm f/2.8L IS USM

06/29/2007 12:16:02 PM · #10

congrats on the pub, bummer on it being undcredited. happens all the time, especially on jump photos (ie, teasers for inside stories).

one thing you can do to *try* to keep it from being an oversight is to use photoshop's file info function (it's under the 'file' menu). fill in as much information as you can, primarily on the first tab and the origins tab. especially the copyright info on the first page and the credit info on the origins. make sure you do NOT use 'save for web' when saving these edits.

do follow up with whomever you submit to and let them know how thrilled you were to see it on the A1, but you'd just wished there had been a credit--and then let it go at that.

keep on submitting, and sooner or later, you'll see your name there.

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D

06/29/2007 12:35:39 PM · #11

Originally posted by Skip:

do follow up with whomever you submit to and let them know how thrilled you were to see it on the A1, but you'd just wished there had been a credit--and then let it go at that.

keep on submitting, and sooner or later, you'll see your name there.

Thanks; I did followup (and that's pretty much exactly what I said LOL), and my contact is looking into what happened. The online version of the Post regularly loses my credit, too, and I am following that up as well. The editors I work directly with never fail to publish my credit, so the problem appears to be in how the picture gets used when they're done with it. The paper has the nonexclusive right to use it again in any of their publications, that's quite clear in their submission policy, but the credit should stick!

I thought I had "(c) Mary O'Malley" in my EXIF via the camera setting but will doublecheck. Good idea, Skip :-)

tate

Apple iPhone 15 Pro

06/29/2007 12:42:55 PM · #12

This sorta stuff is tough to forget. I wrote an article for my college newspaper and used proper quoting techniques and also used parentheses and brackets as they are intended - someone at the paper completely edited this so suddenly my writing became quotes from people I interviewed for the article. Anyway, I'm just saying I can relate and I don't expect for you to forget this ;P

ClubJuggle

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

06/29/2007 01:06:38 PM · #13

Originally posted by MaryO:

Originally posted by Skip:
do follow up with whomever you submit to and let them know how thrilled you were to see it on the A1, but you'd just wished there had been a credit--and then let it go at that.

keep on submitting, and sooner or later, you'll see your name there.

Thanks; I did followup (and that's pretty much exactly what I said LOL), and my contact is looking into what happened. The online version of the Post regularly loses my credit, too, and I am following that up as well. The editors I work directly with never fail to publish my credit, so the problem appears to be in how the picture gets used when they're done with it. The paper has the nonexclusive right to use it again in any of their publications, that's quite clear in their submission policy, but the credit should stick!

I thought I had "(c) Mary O'Malley" in my EXIF via the camera setting but will doublecheck. Good idea, Skip :-)

Mary,

While this may appear in your data, what the Photoshop File info touches is the IPTC (International Press Telcommunications Council) data. My understanding (correct me if I'm wrong

Skip) is that this is what press editors tend to look at when searching for a photo credit. They might not look at the EXIF at all.

~Terry

_eug

Nikon D50

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

06/29/2007 01:19:20 PM · #14

Originally posted by Skip:

fill in as much information as you can, primarily on the first tab and the origins tab. especially the copyright info on the first page and the credit info on the origins.

Interestingly, I just found that PS Elements 4.0 doesn't give you access to the Origin tabs items.

PS CS and Breeze Browser (Edit IPTC/XMP) both show it, but Elements doesn't.

I've never filled any of these in since I've never understood any of it. Now is my change to learn, eh?

Document Title
Author (Me, right?)
Description (Describe the scene, I assume?)
Desc Writer (Me too, right?)
Copywrite status (Easy, copywritten.)
Copywrite notice ("(c) 2007, name" or something more detailed?)
Copywrite info URL
Urgency

Origin:
Location info (Is this where the image was taken?)
Credit (Is this just my name or what?

Odd, Breeze Browser gives me a tab that PS and PSE don't. It has a contact tab. Does this not get displayed to publishers?
Address
City
St
Postal
Country
Phone
Email
Website

If I batch fill the data for certain fields, this invalidates every image in the batch for use in Free Studies and Best of year challenges since it's rewriting the IPTC data to the file, right? This is true of keywording for stock as well, right?