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 06/28/2007 06:38:22 PM · #1
A client of mine who I do a bit of PSing and printing for did a classic boo boo this last weekend: he exceeded his sync speed on a few outdoor shots where he used fill flash. I was able to help a couple of them, but in this case I couldn't come up with anything that worked. Does anyone have any ideas, techniques, etc. that they could share on this shot? I would be happy to email the full sized jpg (scanned from film) if someone thinks they might be able to fix.

Thanks all!

06/28/2007 06:53:17 PM · #2
hmm, go digital and look at the back of your camera next time... lol jk

umm you can try to match the exposure of the light side to the dark using layers and masks. Then all you should need to do is flatten the image and bring it up all at one time. I don't know if the detail in her eye is going to ever be there though. maybe if you can't get it back do a head swap from another image of her.

just an idea
-Christopher
 06/28/2007 07:16:37 PM · #3
Originally posted by gi_joe05:
hmm, go digital and look at the back of your camera next time... lol jk


that's sort of what I've been telling him for a while

Originally posted by gi_joe05:
umm you can try to match the exposure of the light side to the dark using layers and masks. Then all you should need to do is flatten the image and bring it up all at one time. I don't know if the detail in her eye is going to ever be there though. maybe if you can't get it back do a head swap from another image of her.

just an idea
-Christopher


I can't seem to get the color right when using layers, dodging/burning, or any other tech I've tried. The quality of the light (color balance) is different on the flash exposed/unexposed sides, and I can't seem to get them even close. the shadow areas of her head, below the arm and his hand are especially problematic, as well as the white of the dress.

Unfortunately, budget (of lack of $$$) is a definite consideration. I really can't spend much time since it isn't really worth that much to the client.
 06/28/2007 07:32:03 PM · #4
It's fixable.
Here one that was even worse:

06/28/2007 07:34:21 PM · #5
Brad can do it if he cant no one can!

Ill tell you what though its easy to make the otherside darker!
 06/28/2007 08:13:30 PM · #6
Originally posted by jemison:
Originally posted by gi_joe05:
hmm, go digital and look at the back of your camera next time... lol jk


that's sort of what I've been telling him for a while

Originally posted by gi_joe05:
umm you can try to match the exposure of the light side to the dark using layers and masks. Then all you should need to do is flatten the image and bring it up all at one time. I don't know if the detail in her eye is going to ever be there though. maybe if you can't get it back do a head swap from another image of her.

just an idea
-Christopher


I can't seem to get the color right when using layers, dodging/burning, or any other tech I've tried. The quality of the light (color balance) is different on the flash exposed/unexposed sides, and I can't seem to get them even close. the shadow areas of her head, below the arm and his hand are especially problematic, as well as the white of the dress.

Unfortunately, budget (of lack of $$$) is a definite consideration. I really can't spend much time since it isn't really worth that much to the client.


if color is the issue, then just make "the most amazing" (that is what call it when you show it to your client) black and white from it.
 06/28/2007 09:37:46 PM · #7
Originally posted by Brad:
It's fixable.
Here one that was even worse:


Brad, I remember that thread...but I am not sure that it was "even worse". It is fairly apparent where the color shifts are in the corrected version. Luckily, they occur in places that are not easily recognizable and not the center of attention. The split down the middle of the brides face in the one I posted, as well as all the way down the dress (wedding dress at that - very important and any slight variation in brightness, color temp etc. show up like sore thumbs) - all make this one, in my mind, harder to make a passable fix.

I would love to have you prove me wrong. It wouldn't be the first time for you to do that.

Message edited by author 2007-06-28 21:38:38.
 06/28/2007 09:47:52 PM · #8
The biggest issue is the fact that her dress has nice detail on the left side of the frame, while it is mostly blown on the right. Almost makes ya wish the flash hadn't fired at all.
 06/28/2007 09:57:13 PM · #9
That dude looks mad !
 06/28/2007 10:19:09 PM · #10
Originally posted by kenskid:
That dude looks mad !


that's what I was thinking!! I don't even know if I'd want to fix it... he looks downright angry!!! :0P
 06/28/2007 10:31:46 PM · #11


all I did with this is use a gradient mask with a curve adjustment layer.
(taking the middle point and bringing it up)

I suppose if he actually spent some real time on it it would be salvageable! :0)
 06/29/2007 12:26:35 AM · #12
Originally posted by jemison:

I would love to have you prove me wrong. It wouldn't be the first time for you to do that.

Never say never:


06/29/2007 12:46:01 AM · #13
Brad it appears as if you used part of the other eye. While for image detail its great what isnt is its looking the same direction with no adjustment that a real eye would have.

Looks a little weird. Other than that nice.
 06/29/2007 12:48:05 AM · #14
Edit: never mind

Message edited by author 2007-06-29 00:48:33.
 06/29/2007 01:06:34 AM · #15
Originally posted by RainMotorsports:
Brad it appears as if you used part of the other eye. While for image detail its great what isnt is its looking the same direction with no adjustment that a real eye would have.

Looks a little weird. Other than that nice.


could tell people its a glass eye?
 06/29/2007 01:17:27 AM · #16
Hey, I just came across this thread and noticed my picture you cleaned up. Thanks again Brad.. My grandfather was pleased to have that pic restored!



Message edited by author 2007-06-29 01:17:50.
 06/29/2007 01:24:57 AM · #17
Originally posted by kawana:
Originally posted by RainMotorsports:
Brad it appears as if you used part of the other eye. While for image detail its great what isnt is its looking the same direction with no adjustment that a real eye would have.

Looks a little weird. Other than that nice.


could tell people its a glass eye?


Would you tell the bride that oh yeah we photoshopped you a glass eye. OMFG ROFLMAO!
 06/29/2007 01:29:11 AM · #18
was going to post this:

Control-shift-~ grabs highlights. just a tip

Of course Brad's done an excellent job there!
 06/29/2007 01:45:43 AM · #19
F5 (Refresh) it.
There really is only so much can be done with just a few pixels at that resolution.
 06/29/2007 01:47:14 AM · #20
dude the eye is freaking me out, can i get the poster version so i can stay freaked out all day long.

Good work i still think it would have been easier to darken the otherside instead.

Message edited by author 2007-06-29 01:47:21.
 06/29/2007 01:54:46 AM · #21
Guess you just have to fix it from here Jeff.
I'm in the middle of programming an AEM PCM for a 3000GT VR4 and have my attention span more focused there. I did do a couple tweaks between writing the PCM though. LOL
 06/29/2007 08:50:21 AM · #22
Originally posted by Brad:
Guess you just have to fix it from here Jeff.
I'm in the middle of programming an AEM PCM for a 3000GT VR4 and have my attention span more focused there. I did do a couple tweaks between writing the PCM though. LOL


The bitch witht he 3000GT is you have togo with the aftermarket ECU, For whatever reason Chrysler/Mitsu thought it would be a good idea to use a non programmable ecu.
 06/29/2007 10:00:30 AM · #23
Originally posted by jemison:
I would be happy to email the full sized jpg (scanned from film) if someone thinks they might be able to fix.


IMO, it is a bit of a waste of people's time to post the thumb (which Brad has demonstrated can be fixed) when really you need some help with the full size file.

Why not scan and upload the full version somewhere for people to download - you never know whether someone with some time and "mad skillz" will fancy it as a challenge and do something that works.

06/29/2007 03:33:28 PM · #24
Originally posted by Brad:
Originally posted by jemison:

I would love to have you prove me wrong. It wouldn't be the first time for you to do that.

Never say never:



Excellent job Brad! Sure, there is a bit of an issue with the eye - which I am sure could be worked out with more pixels, as you say. There is still a bit of difference in the dress, but I'm thinking that that too could be eased. I won't bother you any more with a request for details of what you did - I appreciate you taking the time to demo the possibilities.

The client informed me this morning that he had found an alternative shot, and doesn't want to go any further with this one (can't figure out why he wanted to in the first place - but that's not my decision).

Thanks again - you never fail to astound with your PS skills!
 06/29/2007 04:06:25 PM · #25
Ok i took a crack at it.
Before:


After


I had to play with brightness & contrast, alot of layers, color adjustments, *superimposing Jessica Alba*, shadow & highlights etc.... the basics really.

ps i know its a horrible job lol, i was bored and this is 3min work :P

Message edited by author 2007-06-29 16:06:55.
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