K100D Super - Now wheres our K10D super?

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

06/28/2007 10:54:57 AM · #1

DPReview Link

Im still reading it but ti seems like not much has changed.

I mean to say "Wheres Our" in the title

Message edited by author 2007-06-28 12:15:15.

SamDoe1

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

06/28/2007 11:05:01 AM · #2

Did you ever get your K10D?

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

06/28/2007 11:12:26 AM · #3

Originally posted by SamDoe1:

Did you ever get your K10D?

Nah I just bought a film scanner but at this rate I can take it off theyll announce an update K10D (Super) and ill end up buying that instead!

I should wait. I still have a list of shit i need.....

SamDoe1

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

06/28/2007 11:25:29 AM · #4

Originally posted by RainMotorsports:

Nah I just bought a film scanner but at this rate I can take it off theyll announce an update K10D (Super) and ill end up buying that instead!

I should wait. I still have a list of shit i need.....

Nah, that only means they'll announce the upgrade as soon as you buy it. Murphy's Law.

06/28/2007 11:34:18 AM · #5

Originally posted by SamDoe1:

Originally posted by RainMotorsports:
Nah I just bought a film scanner but at this rate I can take it off theyll announce an update K10D (Super) and ill end up buying that instead!

I should wait. I still have a list of shit i need.....

Nah, that only means they'll announce the upgrade as soon as you buy it. Murphy's Law.

Well atleast I already Have one autofocus lens for pentax.

Ive been looking at the Tamron 18-250 from 35 to 250 the distortion is minimal and at 18 to 35 the Barrel distortion is 4% compared tot he 2% of the Pentax 18-55 kit lens.

Im thinking ditch the 70-210 for the 100 bucks its worth (Payed 90 for it with a camera and another lens) Get the 18-250 and a prime of choice. I dunno yet.

Right now for 1,000 Dollars I can get the K10D, The Battery Grip, SPare Battery and the 18-55 Kit lens, deal with the 70-210 till i can get better.

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

06/28/2007 11:37:07 AM · #6

BTW

On Pentax's site the K110D isnt showing in the lineup, i wonder if the K100D will drop in price?

Neil

Fujifilm X-T30

06/28/2007 12:30:16 PM · #7

Originally posted by RainMotorsports:

Originally posted by SamDoe1:

Originally posted by RainMotorsports:
Nah I just bought a film scanner but at this rate I can take it off theyll announce an update K10D (Super) and ill end up buying that instead!

I should wait. I still have a list of shit i need.....

Nah, that only means they'll announce the upgrade as soon as you buy it. Murphy's Law.

Well atleast I already Have one autofocus lens for pentax.

Ive been looking at the Tamron 18-250 from 35 to 250 the distortion is minimal and at 18 to 35 the Barrel distortion is 4% compared tot he 2% of the Pentax 18-55 kit lens.

Im thinking ditch the 70-210 for the 100 bucks its worth (Payed 90 for it with a camera and another lens) Get the 18-250 and a prime of choice. I dunno yet.

Right now for 1,000 Dollars I can get the K10D, The Battery Grip, SPare Battery and the 18-55 Kit lens, deal with the 70-210 till i can get better.

I tried the Tammy 18-250 in the camera store (and outside it), seemed like a nice lens. Good range. Seems like a good deal for the price, and gives you a heck of a lot of range.

Fixed your title.

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM

06/28/2007 12:34:10 PM · #8

Yeah you played with it then bought the Nikon 18-200 which is a hell of alot better. Thanks for fixing the title.

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eschelar

Canon EOS-7D

06/28/2007 12:34:55 PM · #9

expect to wait 6 months for the K10D super.

It will probably see release at the September Photokina. It will hit shelves around christmas time.

just a guess, but I'm never wrong.

*larf*

BTW, why are you looking at things like barrel distortion for a 14x range zoom lens with a max aperture of f/6.3 at the long end?

Yikes.

I'd still wait it out though. Be ready for the K10D super. You never know, it might not be as great as you hope and you might snag a great deal on a K10D!

Tamron 70-180mm F/2.8 Di III VXD

06/28/2007 12:38:13 PM · #10

Elaborate on the whole why am i looking at statement? Sigma's 18-200 is plaugued with barrel distortion compared to the tamron. Im sure neither is very sharp.

But why is a max aperture of f/6.3 so bad on the long end? My experience using a 70-300 on my Canon Elan in arlignton cemetary the camera stops down beyond that anyways.

MadMan2k

Sony Alpha a6400

06/28/2007 03:32:47 PM · #11

It's nice to have a fast lens when you get into that range. Sure, you might shoot it at f8 a lot but it feels better when you're 3 stops down from wide open rather than 1 stop. Brighter viewfinder too, and more versatile... only problem is the size. And the fact that Pentax doesn't have a fast zoom tele quite yet.

This K100DS doesn't seem to be much of an improvement... not for me, but maybe some people will like it. I wonder what they would change if they made a K10DS rather than a K20D? If they raised the buffer size and framerate, and put a better processor in for less noise, that would make sense.

eschelar

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM

06/28/2007 10:06:34 PM · #12

Barrel distortion is a much lesser issue than being forced to shoot at f/6.3 just because you are zooming. In fact, barrel distortion is a very minor issue indeed unless you are doing a lot of architectural work or something.

Also, shooting 250mm at f/6.3 is probably going to be giving pretty crappy results. Probably have to stop down two stops to get anything half decent.

then you are shooting at f/11 just to get a sharp pic. At 250mm x1.5x crop... == 375mm equivalent...

yeah, so you will probably find best results if you shoot 1/400 at f/11 to shoot that lens hand-held at full tele with sharp results... minus two stops for SR in the Pentax... that's 1/125 at f/11 to get sharp results...

Hrm. that's pretty flippin' bright!

Sharpness and contrast are issues too. Yeah, you might get the pic, but do you want to keep it?

Viewfinder is an issue, but so is AF. f/6.3 is VERY hard on AF sensors. You will at least be seeing a fairly significant loss of performance with your fancy 9 cross-type sensors. For AF, Max aperture is the relevant information. The camera opens the lens up during focusing both for the viewfinder and for your eye. You can shoot at f/8, but the camera will only stop the lens down to that as part of the exposure process. Want to see what this is like? use one of your manual lenses and look around at stuff in various lighting situations with the lens manually set to f/6.3. Make sure the diaphragm is actually extended. Or if you have a DOF Preview button, hold that and look around...

Why not save your money and buy two lenses so at least when you want to take something beyond 100mm, you can get some results. those lenses are sharp, but not usually beyond 100mm. The Nikon one is pretty nice because it adds VR, but sharpness wise, you don't gain much over the 18-70 kit lens. both fall off around the same focal lengths. Sure you have extra range, but using it has a lot of limitations.

Another couple of lenses you might want to consider if you need the range are the Tamron 24-135 and the Sigma 18-125. Both are quite popular and quite affordable. the Tamron is probably the better of the two.

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

06/28/2007 10:15:21 PM · #13

Id save my money and get two lenses, but.

If im forced to quick change lenses i will drop a lens, when i have to make haste i drop lenses ask anyone who was on the June DC GTG.

I find I have to constantly change between lenses because im switching between two types of shots. Im pretty sure id find plenty of missed shots. It's not like im shooting a wedding or an air show where i can pick one lens and work with it and change it after awhile.

Dropped lens = money lost not saved.

However watching Skip Rowland shoot the entire GTG with a wide angle zoom, did make things interesting. The lens was usually 2 inches from someones face and i still dont get who shoots airplanes with a wide angle and gets away with it lol.

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My K1000 sadly has no DOF preview, The Canon AV-1 is gay does have it though.

I shot from the ages of 9 to 20 with a Yashica FX-3 that what aperture your at is what you see no DOF preview needed.

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On the end of your suggestions I shot with a Canon 28-135 and loved it, wish they had a 18-120 or something id definitely pick one up for the elan.

Message edited by author 2007-06-28 22:17:53.

Neil

Fujifilm X-T30

06/28/2007 10:29:09 PM · #14

It's just my opinion of course, but I wouldn't worry about the long side of the Tamron letting you down. If you got the 18-125 instead, you would be let down anyway if you tried to shoot something that was too far away.

Most of the time, you'll want to shoot in the focal length sweet spots for the lens, but it will be nice to have the extra range when you need it.

Switching lenses all the time isn't any fun either. That's why, after carrying around my 10-22, an 18-125, and a 70-300, I switched to the Nikon, where I could get a good range with VR. When you are try to capture stuff as it happens, switching lenses is a pain. It's not so bad for landscapes etc., but for that, I'd just need my wide angle (well the 18-200 isn't a one lens solution for me anyway, since I need something wider).

If you plan on shooting a lot in the long end, like birds or wildlife, then yes, you will want another lens for that. You need something that focuses quickly, and gets high quality shots at telephoto.

But as a walkaround, not sure what you are looking for lens, that 18-250 will be perfect. Also as a vacation lens. Just learn its limitations, and stay within them when you want quality. (It's like ISO: it's good to have ISO 3200 so you can use it when you absolutely have to, but you don't want to use it unless you have to. Still it's better to have it rather than not have it.)

There are reviews of the lens, and other lenses, here:

//www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1009/cat/23

There's also a nice interactive chart system, so you can compare distortion and sharpness with other lenses that were tested.