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01/03/2004 08:57:03 AM · #1 |
I have a framed photograph of our two son's and water got splashed on it and and ran down between the glass and the photo. We did not notice it right away and now parts of the photograph are stuck to the glass.
If you try to remove it it will peel and damage the photo even more.
Does anyone know how to remove the photo stuck to the glass without extensive damage so the photo can be scanned and repaired?
I thought about steaming it but I think that would be hard to control and damage it more?
Any ideas?
P.S.
Website suggestion - I wish we could edit our topic titles! :)
Message edited by author 2004-01-03 08:58:10.
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01/03/2004 09:03:15 AM · #2 |
Topic title corrected :)
As for your question, sorry, I have no idea :P
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01/03/2004 09:09:21 AM · #3 |
Preventitive maintenance (next time), never put a photo or art work against glass. But, that lesson is learned now.
Steaming may be a last resort. How about just dry heat? Blowdryer?
There are some "framers' websites with forums that may be able to help you. I am sure the pro framers have seen it many times.
Photo.net framing
Picture Framers Grumble
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01/03/2004 09:13:39 AM · #4 |
| maybe you can take a picture of it whilst still in the frame with another camera and use that as a backup incase something horribly wrong goes wrong with your original.... |
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01/03/2004 10:55:46 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by unholycommunion:
maybe you can take a picture of it whilst still in the frame with another camera and use that as a backup incase something horribly wrong goes wrong with your original.... |
In that case it would be a lot more easy to scan the frame :)
My best advice would be use hairdryer to heat it a little up and by doing that making it dry ( if it isn't already ) and than just use that frame, dont try to take it from the glass :) |
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01/03/2004 11:12:00 AM · #6 |
i was thinking that....you know.....scanning the frame.....but then came the problem of reflection....but i don't know...i've never done that before
Message edited by author 2004-01-03 11:18:50. |
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01/03/2004 11:21:45 AM · #7 |
hehe lol, why did you edit,
never did it before would have been a lot more funny :) |
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01/03/2004 01:35:12 PM · #8 |
It's also possible that the safest removal would be with more water, soaking the picture and glass together. Photographic papers typically go through a series of chemical and rinse tanks anyway, and should be OK getting wet again if they are then properly re-dried.
Scanning the frame would be difficult because scanners focus right at the surface of the glass; your frame and glass will lift it up. But if you have a scanner, I'd try it because they work surprisingly well for a lot of things ... and definitely take some pictures as back-up before you do anything.
Good luck! |
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01/03/2004 06:52:57 PM · #9 |
Scanning the photo is definitely possible, and will often work very well. Play with the resolution to see if you can get a good scan. (This would be MY first choice, to try avoid damage to the photo.)
Many places do recommend wetting the photo on the glass, then carefully removing it. DO NOT try to blot it dry - best to hang it to dry. Be aware that using water will not always work that well.
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01/03/2004 06:56:37 PM · #10 |
| Maybe you could call the art department of a local college or a museum and see if someone in their conservancy department can help. |
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01/03/2004 07:08:28 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Maybe you could call the art department of a local college or a museum and see if someone in their conservancy department can help. |
I have to agree. If it is an "irreplaceable" photo, definitely try to find some kind of photographic conservancy professional.
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01/03/2004 11:57:01 PM · #12 |
Assuming that this is a photographic print, use distilled water. Photographic emulsions are sticky when wet, and this one, got stuck to the glass when it got wet. Soak the glass and photo in a tray of warm (~68F) distilled water and wait (it may take a while), once the water has penetrated the emulsion, it should come free fairly easily. If you can, hang it from one edge to dry, as this will minimize the dust that can settle onto it and become stuck. Don't be alarmed if the colors look strange when the print is wet, that is normal, they should go back once the print is dry.
If this is a professional portrait and has been retouched on the print surface, the above technique may cause a problem. You might want to contact the photographer in that case, many times they have negs for everything they ever shot. I know some of the guys I have worked for had negs going back to the Jurassic period.
In general, valuable photos should be mounted and framed using mats. Not only do they provide an attractive border, they also maintain an airspace between the print emulsion and the glass. Humid conditions can also cause the same problems.
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01/04/2004 02:35:02 AM · #13 |
Ok I finally had some time to work on this project.
I scanned the photo with the glass still attached and this is what I came up with:
I will also try to photograph it later for added measure.
The scan is not bad and with some work can be suitable for print.
The portrait is one of the Sears package deals we had done several years ago. It unfortunately got hung to close to our aquarium and when one of the larger fish tried to escape it splattered the photo.
I will review the suggestions and comments and make an attempt to save it.
Thanks for taking the time to help with your suggestions and comments.
If anyone else has any ideas please let me know.
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