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01/03/2004 01:25:37 AM · #1
I know I've asked some people before about borders, and I know many people don't like them, but I do! I'm looking at doing a border like
this one!

Anyone know how I can do so!?

Lee
01/03/2004 01:30:22 AM · #2
I have macromedia fireworks mx. Under the filters tab there is an add-in called Alien Skin Splat LE. It does some that look similar to that.

I would look for Add-Ons/Filters for the editing program you use.
01/03/2004 01:40:21 AM · #3
I'm using Photoshop 7.0, I haven't been able to find any that have a border like this!

Lee
01/03/2004 01:48:14 AM · #4
I heard that auto FX software has tons of borders that will allow you to do something like the one you are looking for.
01/03/2004 02:12:41 AM · #5
Hey I got one, how do you do the real simple border that ain't really a border. It's just a line a little bit in from the edge of the shot and the shot keeps going to the edge of the frame... Of course now that I want an example I can't find one...

Ha found one...How do you do this kind of border?


Message edited by author 2004-01-03 02:14:51.
01/03/2004 02:28:58 AM · #6
Originally posted by TooCool:

Hey I got one, how do you do the real simple border that ain't really a border. It's just a line a little bit in from the edge of the shot and the shot keeps going to the edge of the frame... Of course now that I want an example I can't find one...

Ha found one...How do you do this kind of border?



In Photoshop, use the marquee select tool. Go a couple pixels in from the edge of the image. Then go to Edit -> Stroke. Set the pixel width you want your line, and the color you want.

Or, I guess you could select the whole image, do the Edit -> Stroke around the whold thing (make sure its set to inside), then resize your canvas a few pixels on each side.
01/03/2004 10:08:27 AM · #7
Thanks JDW...I'll try that now!
01/03/2004 12:03:50 PM · #8
Using the Marquee select tool, how do I make sure my border is the same distance away from the edge all around? Marquee just lets you draw a rectangle anywhere, right? I want to make sure my border is even - is it just a guessing game?
01/03/2004 12:30:11 PM · #9
You should be able to Select->All, then Select->Modify->Contract to shrink it by a gien number of pixels. It works in Paint Shop Pro, but in Photoshop Elements the Contract option is disabled when the entire canvas is selected. I don't have Photoshop, but give it a try!

Message edited by author 2004-01-03 12:30:30.
01/03/2004 12:57:10 PM · #10
Originally posted by dr rick:

You should be able to Select->All, then Select->Modify->Contract to shrink it by a gien number of pixels. It works in Paint Shop Pro, but in Photoshop Elements the Contract option is disabled when the entire canvas is selected. I don't have Photoshop, but give it a try!


That works in Photoshop 6. And I was just guessing before. This should help.

I would suggest if you are just guessing to use two opposite corners, because there you can line up two sides at one time. Shouldn't have to guess though with the Select --> Modify though. Thanks.
01/03/2004 12:59:50 PM · #11
Originally posted by dr rick:

You should be able to Select->All, then Select->Modify->Contract to shrink it by a gien number of pixels. It works in Paint Shop Pro, but in Photoshop Elements the Contract option is disabled when the entire canvas is selected. I don't have Photoshop, but give it a try!


You're right - even in Photoshop CS, Select-Modify-Contract is disabled if the entire canvas is selected. Which seems odd.

Check out this link: //user.fundy.net/morris/redirect.html?photoshop9.shtml

Which describes how to work around this quirk. Essentially you select the entire canvas, move the selection 1 over and 1 down, contract by 1 pixel, and then move 1 left and 1 up to recenter. From here you can contract an additional amount as needed.

Rich.
01/03/2004 01:17:27 PM · #12
Originally posted by richterrell:

Originally posted by dr rick:

You should be able to Select->All, then Select->Modify->Contract to shrink it by a gien number of pixels. It works in Paint Shop Pro, but in Photoshop Elements the Contract option is disabled when the entire canvas is selected. I don't have Photoshop, but give it a try!


You're right - even in Photoshop CS, Select-Modify-Contract is disabled if the entire canvas is selected. Which seems odd.

Check out this link: //user.fundy.net/morris/redirect.html?photoshop9.shtml

Which describes how to work around this quirk. Essentially you select the entire canvas, move the selection 1 over and 1 down, contract by 1 pixel, and then move 1 left and 1 up to recenter. From here you can contract an additional amount as needed.

Rich.


Further Googling found me a little more workable solution, or at least I like it better:

Select All
Select - Modify - Border - 2 pixels
Select - Inverse.

That's it - a selection all the way around with a 1 pixel border. From here you can contract further. There generally seems to be about 10 different ways to do any particular task in Photoshop... :-)

Rich.
01/03/2004 01:48:47 PM · #13
Originally posted by richterrell:


Further Googling found me a little more workable solution, or at least I like it better:

Select All
Select - Modify - Border - 2 pixels
Select - Inverse.

That's it - a selection all the way around with a 1 pixel border. From here you can contract further. There generally seems to be about 10 different ways to do any particular task in Photoshop... :-)

Rich.

Make that 10 "RIGHT" ways ... but then that's true of almost everything about computers (or else there wouldn't be more than one word-processing program).

Thanks for the tip -- the inability to contract from the Select-All state has always bugged me too, and it is the same in PS 5.
01/03/2004 02:04:46 PM · #14
Originally posted by Spanish_Grease:

I know I've asked some people before about borders, and I know many people don't like them, but I do! I'm looking at doing a border like
this one!

Anyone know how I can do so!?

Lee


In PSP8, under the "image" tab, there are both border and frame selections. There are many, however this is one (frame) example:



Message edited by author 2004-01-04 14:24:12.
01/03/2004 02:51:10 PM · #15
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by richterrell:


Further Googling found me a little more workable solution, or at least I like it better:

Select All
Select - Modify - Border - 2 pixels
Select - Inverse.

That's it - a selection all the way around with a 1 pixel border. From here you can contract further. There generally seems to be about 10 different ways to do any particular task in Photoshop... :-)

Rich.

Make that 10 "RIGHT" ways ... but then that's true of almost everything about computers (or else there wouldn't be more than one word-processing program).

Thanks for the tip -- the inability to contract from the Select-All state has always bugged me too, and it is the same in PS 5.



Of course there are suppose to be 10 Right ways. Why would these image editing programs be user friendly? lol
01/03/2004 02:59:55 PM · #16
The border that works best for me is a very subtle drop shadow. I like this as it lifts the photo off the page, like in this one. After a lot of looking around, I found the technique and put together a PS action script which does it for any image.

If you are interested in this script, I'll put it somewhere for download and you can grab it.
01/03/2004 03:11:30 PM · #17
Originally posted by ronners:

The border that works best for me is a very subtle drop shadow. I like this as it lifts the photo off the page, like in this one. After a lot of looking around, I found the technique and put together a PS action script which does it for any image.

If you are interested in this script, I'll put it somewhere for download and you can grab it.


I would like it and also instructions on how to use scripts...
01/05/2004 12:02:39 PM · #18
You can grab the PhotoShop action script from -

//www.purpleringo.com/dropshadow.atn

Just save the page to your hard disk. Then in PhotoShop, under the actions palette, choose the 'load action' option and pick this file. An action will appear in your actions list under 'My Actions'. Open any photo, select this action, and click the play button at the bottom of the action palette. A border will (hopefully) be added to your photo.

Let me know if you have any problems.

Ron.
01/28/2004 07:31:39 AM · #19
Originally posted by TooCool:


Ha found one...How do you do this kind of border?


Hi! I'm the aouthor of that picture.
If everybody else is using PhotoShop 7, PaintShotPro etc.
I'm usin good old Corel PhotoPaint 7.
And there is rectangel tool, where you can adjust border width (1px in this case) and "no fill" option and this makes a good solid 1px rectangle.

And after some try I managed to draw the rectangle so it was at the same distance frome the edges.
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