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06/06/2007 11:56:47 AM · #1
I just discovered & joined this nice site (I'm slow sometimes) and have tried studying up on the basic/advanced editing challenge rules... But while I think I understand the basic principles, I'm still not sure of their application. Could you please look at a photo I edited with just four clicks on an online image processing site, with no partial selections and no external additions? (What I actually did is displayed with the photo) On that site I won a little prize for it... :-) but would it be allowed as Basic Editing here? Advanced? Here's the photo:
//picomat.com/index.aspx?image=27941bff-9edc-4ccd-b6c8-0ce2961462f6
Thanks in advance!
06/06/2007 11:59:32 AM · #2
not sure if it's legal - but I'm quite sure it would be butchered by the voters - it would not score well at all on this site.

Anything that takes a photo out of the realm of a photo and into digital art is generally frowned upon here except for special challenges.

Hope that's helpful.
06/06/2007 12:02:02 PM · #3
It might help to list the filters and editing history that you did. Most filters are not allowed in basic - except for things such as neat image, USM, dust/stratches and color correction, and noise and gaussian blur. Even with these, they have to be applied to the entire image - no spot editing is allowed.

I would really recommend reading the Basic Rules set and then ask specific questions...
Basic Rules

And I agree with digitalknight - Images on DPC really get creamed if they don't resemble photographs.

Originally posted by Photo-Jessie:

I just discovered & joined this nice site (I'm slow sometimes) and have tried studying up on the basic/advanced editing challenge rules... But while I think I understand the basic principles, I'm still not sure of their application. Could you please look at a photo I edited with just four clicks on an online image processing site, with no partial selections and no external additions? (What I actually did is displayed with the photo) On that site I won a little prize for it... :-) but would it be allowed as Basic Editing here? Advanced? Here's the photo:
//picomat.com/index.aspx?image=27941bff-9edc-4ccd-b6c8-0ce2961462f6
Thanks in advance!


Message edited by author 2007-06-06 12:02:53.
06/06/2007 12:02:59 PM · #4
Well, it's hard to tell what you did. Any kind of spot editing is illegal in basic editing, so the redeye removal is out. In advanced editing, this is probably legal. Send the original and edited version to the SC (use Contact Us in the Help menu) to find out for sure.

Whether it's legal or not, though, it would do very badly in the voting here. The voters here prefer things that are more photographic, and less digital art.
06/06/2007 12:04:59 PM · #5


this image was butchered in the free study challenge.
all done in basic editing, meaning filters applied to the whole image, and nothing was added or removed and of course no spot editing.

so based on that i can tell you that pic will probably suffer the same fate.

cheers,
06/06/2007 12:11:01 PM · #6
It's probably legal in Advanced, but very possibly illegal in Basic. Basic is a methods-based rule set, and up to this point we've never been asked to rule on specific tools used on the site you referenced. Without review of the specific techniques involved, it would be impossible to say whether it's legal or not.
I do agree that it would probably not fare well with the voters here.
06/07/2007 05:56:42 AM · #7
Thanks so much for all your friendly replies; this seems like a great place where I can learn a lot, and I think I understand what you are telling me. Of course, the challenges here are different from the Picomat competitions.

There, you get rewarded for most interesting/effective application of the simple but powerful Picomat image processing tools to your varying-quality originals. That's one natural way of defining boundaries for judgement. Here, the result can be arrived at in any which way. And I guess that means you have to narrow down the accepted image styles somewhat, formally or informally, to make fair comparisons. That's totally reasonable.

And don't worry, I do make nice girly pictures too like //picomat.com/index.aspx?image=35c73297-083b-45d8-880c-6562dabb7291 :-) ...but prefer making slightly edgier stuff like //picomat.com/index.aspx?image=e3bf259c-e08a-41ef-b3c1-78f6506c3111 (it's all so easy to make in Picomat) which I guess still 'looks like a photo' and would be OK here. :-)

BTW zaflabout, I liked your image, and I don't know what the 'normal level' of comments is here, but I actually thought most comments you got were fairly nice, and deservedly so... On my screen it just looks a tiny bit washed-out. Maybe a mild application of Picomat's Undrab and Unblur (not because it's blurry, just for sharper contrast with retained edges) tools would help? :-)

Thank you all again, I look forward to a great time here.
06/07/2007 06:15:21 AM · #8
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