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12/20/2003 03:42:12 PM · #1
How can you tell when a photo has been processed? How can you tell when a shot has violated the DPC rules like spot editing? I know that some people recommend shots for DQ & I was wondering how you can tell? E.g., someone wrote a comment that I spot edited a shot I entered & I wasn't even sure what that was. What traits are the tell tale signs of illegal processing?
12/20/2003 04:38:13 PM · #2
I don't really know how they tell it, because I am a beginner. Maybe if you suspect a photo and download it and view it with 300-500% magnification, you can see areas where noise, spots, etc. are different. I am not sure. But here you will be asked for your original photo, and if you can tell the admins what you have done to it - they said no need for proper numbers, just the main processes -, there won't be trouble if you hadn't done anything illegal.
12/20/2003 04:49:48 PM · #3
To be real honest, if someone wants to spot edit, and is good at PS, well you wont be able to tell. I really think most people are honest though. Blowing up a picture may or may not help. I could look at any pic at 500% Mag and see all kinds of strange stuff.

But, like I said I think most people are honest. Are there some that spot edit and get away with it? Maybe. But I can almost assure you they are not the top photos / photographers.
12/20/2003 04:56:19 PM · #4
In my view,I want to learn to the point where I hardly need to spot edit any of my pictures. ie. spot the hazards before they happen,don't take shots that will have loads of noise or have distractions in the picture. Am I right in a general sort of way?
12/20/2003 05:13:59 PM · #5
Hey Peecee,

for sure! I try to avoid the pitfalls I am aware of & since I am an amateur, there's still a lot I dont know about. I was just asking bc I see message in red for some shots & was curious. I'm not all that good at PS 7 either & have bee, thus far, too lazy to read thru tutorials but learning thru trial & error.

I agree that DPC users are honest and keep to the rules. I hope no one thought I was saying otherwise.

Anyway, I was just wondering. Thanks everyone!

12/20/2003 05:16:26 PM · #6
I am also a beginner at editing shots, so I have nor real idea how to locate spot editing unless it's done in a very sloppy manner.

The Admins require the original for comparison and I believe it's probably the best to detremine if there has been spot editing.
12/20/2003 05:22:22 PM · #7
Originally posted by Rooster:

I agree that DPC users are honest and keep to the rules. I hope no one thought I was saying otherwise.


You are right, I didn't think anything like that. You are simply curious, me, too. :-)) I guess most who get DQed just don't read the rules properly or they don't really understand them, that's all.
12/20/2003 05:34:50 PM · #8
Originally posted by Beagleboy:


The Admins require the original for comparison and I believe it's probably the best to detremine if there has been spot editing.


I am not sure how you can determine if a supplied original is an original. EXIF is easy to strip, to edit and to put back into the image header, so you can't be sure about that.
If you do very careful spot editing in your original it will be very hard to see that you did it.

So how does the dpc team determine if an original is an original?


12/20/2003 07:28:42 PM · #9
Originally posted by Azrifel:

So how does the dpc team determine if an original is an original?

If we told you then the method wouldn't work anymore ...
12/20/2003 08:02:22 PM · #10
He he he. :)

I am thinking about one method, it would be almost impossible to hide editing. But I'd need to work out how to get that data from the image.

You can ask for my unedited, straight from the camera originals anytime, unless its an original TIFF.

Message edited by author 2003-12-20 20:05:03.
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