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Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 II

05/24/2007 10:58:04 PM · #55

Originally posted by EducatedSavage:

Originally posted by GeneralE:
Not "Expert Editing" -- these are "Advanced Editing." Those two rule sets are quite different.

Okay, now I'm a little worried. Am I reading the Advanced Rules wrong? In the 'You May' section I'm seeing 'clone out incidental power lines...'? Please let me know where I've got this one wrong - I don't get to use Advanced often enough to feel confident about it!

Edited to add: 2 out of 3 of my 6+ scores are with my P&S and all my editing has been done with GIMP (except that one experiment, but I don't like to think about that).

you are right, just that you said expert which means you can use more than one photo.

EducatedSavage

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

05/24/2007 11:03:50 PM · #56

Originally posted by Elvis_L:

you are right, just that you said expert which means you can use more than one photo.

That's embarrassing! Would you believe me that I reread it several times before hitting 'post'? Guess I got a little over excited! Fixed now!

Dantzr

Pentax K-x

05/24/2007 11:40:36 PM · #57

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:
I do wonder if Ansel Adams would of used photoshop if he had it at his disposal.

I worked with Ansel Adams. He was very much in favor of anything that helped a photographer realize his/her vision in the print. He'd have loved the creative possibilities of Photoshop.

R.

I didn't work with Mr. Adams, but I took a class on his "Zone" from him in the early 80s. The impression I got from him, and believe me I am never sure about anything, was that the final product was the main concern. Oh... not that things should be twisted and/or faked, but that whatever it took to bring forth the best photograph was perfect.

I got the impression that to him, you work your patootie off to get the absolute best shot you can using the camera. Then, in the darkroom (in digital I guess this would be Photoshop) you would work to bring the photograph to a point that was the closest to what you saw through the viewfinder before pressing the shutter release.

I am very envious, if not totally jealous, of you having worked with this man. If ever there was a man who loved what he was doing, Mr. Adams was it... and his enthusiasm was more infectious than a child's laughter.

whiterook

Sony DSLR-A700

Sony DT 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 Aspherical ED High Magnification Zoom Lens for Sony Alpha

05/25/2007 06:08:50 PM · #58

Guess if Photography can be Fiction or nonfiction. Guess if you guy want to rub out key details like powerlines. You guys are writing a novel.

Elvis_L

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Sony DT 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 Aspherical ED High Magnification Zoom Lens for Sony Alpha

05/25/2007 06:11:39 PM · #59

Originally posted by whiterook:

Guess if Photography can be Fiction or nonfiction. Guess if you guy want to rub out key details like powerlines. You guys are writing a novel.

i am making art not documenting things. so yes it would be fiction if PJ is non fiction

whiterook

Sony DSLR-A700

05/25/2007 06:48:51 PM · #60

I believe photographer shouldn't mislead the viewer of any photograph.

Message edited by author 2007-05-25 19:19:32.

skewsme

Canon EOS-6D

Canon EF 200mm f/2.8 L II USM Lens

05/25/2007 07:12:22 PM · #61

Originally posted by whiterook:

I believe photographer should mislead the viewer of any photograph.

this is a brilliant statement. i love it. i don't know the context yet, but i love it.

05/25/2007 07:21:27 PM · #62

Originally posted by whiterook:

I believe photographer shouldn't mislead the viewer of any photograph.

Every photograph misleads.

fotomann_forever

05/25/2007 07:27:55 PM · #63

Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

Originally posted by whiterook:
I believe photographer shouldn't mislead the viewer of any photograph.

Every photograph misleads.

Exactly, choice of crop, DoF, perspective, angle ... all distort reality. When you transpose a infinite 3D world onto a very limited 2D frame, you can't in anyway be completely non-deceptive.

soup

Canon EOS-30D

05/25/2007 07:54:11 PM · #64

is it distort or pinpoint, in that respect?

can you tell what you're eye is actually doing for a given 1/200th of a second? the photo leads the eye, but doesn't necessarily 'mis-lead'.

your eye selectively focuses, just as the photographer does.

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

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Originally posted by whiterook:

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I believe photographer shouldn't mislead the viewer of any photograph.

Every photograph misleads.

Exactly, choice of crop, DoF, perspective, angle ... all distort reality. When you transpose a infinite 3D world onto a very limited 2D frame, you can't in anyway be completely non-deceptive.

05/25/2007 07:57:57 PM · #65

I think the biggest limitations/distortions are, as Leroy pointed out, that the image is 2 dimensions and the fact that you see only what is in the crop and that tells a story out of context.

Message edited by author 2007-05-25 19:58:30.

soup

Canon EOS-30D

05/25/2007 08:01:06 PM · #66

i suppose, but, your normal vision sort of does the same thing...

Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

I think the biggest limitations/distortions are, as Leroy pointed out, that the image is 2 dimensions and the fact that you see only what is in the crop and that tells a story out of context.

Message edited by author 2007-05-25 20:01:16.

05/25/2007 08:03:11 PM · #67

But I concede that it tells a truth from the captured moment in time just not the whole truth.

Message edited by author 2007-05-25 20:05:17.

soup

Canon EOS-30D

05/25/2007 08:50:31 PM · #68

uncropped of course ;}

Originally posted by [thegrandwazoo:

But I concede that it tells a truth from the captured moment in time just not the whole truth.