Four Advanced Editing Contests - DPChallenge Forums

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

05/24/2007 05:13:57 PM · #1

And just as i was thinking that i'd become a paying member of DPC, all four conests for this week are 'advanced editing'. Thanks guys. Way to turn it into a photshop contest and not a photography contest. *I* don't have/use photoshop, so wtf is the point of entering advanced editing contests?

purpleflutterby13

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

05/24/2007 05:16:44 PM · #2

Um, surely you can still submit the shots you were going to submit anyway?

thegrandwazoo

Nikon D750

05/24/2007 05:16:52 PM · #3

Hey Zep the admins do that once in a while to give the non-paying member of the site a chance to try out the Advanced Rule set. IMHO advanced editing is not a PS contest and I encourage you to read the rule set and see for yourself. As well you do not need edit your image at all to enter any challenge.

Message edited by author 2007-05-24 17:17:45.

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

05/24/2007 05:18:32 PM · #4

your right, you don't *need* to edit your photos to enter the challenge, but i don't take a knife to a gun fight either.

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

05/24/2007 05:19:01 PM · #5

Glass is always half empty, eh? :-P
The occasional use of the Advanced Rules in Open Challenges is to occasionally allow registered users more flexibility in processing, should they so wish. There's no requirement to use the additional flexibility. Also, FWIW, Advanced Editing techniques can easily be accomplished with any number of free or low-cost software.
Also, look at past Advanced Editing challenges. I think you'll find that Advanced Editing does anything but turn it into a PS contest.

thegrandwazoo

Nikon D750

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

05/24/2007 05:19:30 PM · #6

Originally posted by ZeppKash:

your right, you don't *need* to edit your photos to enter the challenge, but i don't take a knife to a gun fight either.

Read the rules. The gun fight is Expert editing. So go ahead and bring your knife.

escapetooz

Canon EOS-500D Rebel T1i

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

05/24/2007 05:28:22 PM · #7

I really don't see what you are complaining about. You've already one a ribbon in 4 challenges! Relax. If you take good photos they don't need all that editing. And you could think about LEARNING a bit and trying some more advanced editing. I gaurantee you there are a lot of people in your spot.

And as was mentioned, there are a lot of people that really WANT advanced editing on the open challenges. I know I did before I became a paying memeber, it was like a holiday for me.

Judi

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Sony DT 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 Aspherical ED High Magnification Zoom Lens for Sony Alpha

05/24/2007 05:30:44 PM · #8

Does there always have to be complaints...can't people be happy for once. If you don't like something...then don't enter...!

This post is not aimed at any one member...it is just my opinion.

whiterook

Sony DSLR-A700

05/24/2007 05:38:16 PM · #9

Originally posted by Judi:

Does there always have to be complaints...can't people be happy for once. If you don't like something...then don't enter...!

This post is not aimed at any one member...it is just my opinion.

I agree with judi people should be happy and don't whine. I just compaint at one thing whiner.

bs-photos

Pentax K7

Pentax DA 16-45mm f/4.0 ED AL AF

05/24/2007 05:41:56 PM · #10

Originally posted by ZeppKash:

WAHHHH. Go cry somewhere else. I'm tired of hearing all the whiney people on this site in general. I'm not directing this at anyone specific, but have you ever heard "you can't get everything you want" or "you can't have your cake and eat it to"?? Just deal with it.

Submit what you like out of your photographs & see how it does. It's NOT the end of the world if everybody doesn't think as highly of your photo as you do.

Just my 2 cents

Edit to add that there are more benefits than just the advanced editing rules when you become a paying member

Message edited by author 2007-05-24 17:44:47.

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

05/24/2007 05:42:28 PM · #11

One ribbon in four entries? I'd just keep going with whatever mojo you got running Zepp...

jdannels

Nikon D300s

Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM for Nikon

05/24/2007 05:46:44 PM · #12

If the sports challenge was run under advanced editing, and you entered that exact same entry with the basic editing techniques you used, you still would have ribboned. Just enter good photos and they will do well. :)

Nikon AF Nikkor 28-85mm 1:3.5-4.5

05/24/2007 06:02:31 PM · #13

Alright, i'll quit whining. And thanks for the critisism that wasn't whining about whining. ;)

So lets try this... when can we see a classic? editing, or a 'straight from the camera' type contest?

and the sports challenge picture was so much more natural beauty than photographic skill. (see my other photos as proof (and give contructive critisism while there :)))

electrolost

Nikon D200

05/24/2007 06:05:26 PM · #14

C'mon you know it's a photoshop site. but what is wrong with that? Photoshop is just a digital darkroon. Almost everything you do in photoshop can be reproduced in a darkroom. When you take a picture all you get is a negative that needs to be processed to get a good photo. I can see how you could hate photoshop because it is artifical and a certin craftmanship is lost. But there is a craft in it as well. I could also see how you could hate photoshop if all you are used to doing is bringing your pictures to a lab. Then there is the those people who hate it because they don't know how to use or perhaps cannot afford it. sorry I think I started to ramble awhile ago. My original thought was that photography has always been more than pushing a button.
IT is a process that includes developing either traditionally using chemicals or through the use of a computer. So you can't really say photoshoppin is not real photography. or at least this is what I think and stuff

05/24/2007 06:11:32 PM · #15

Very good point electrolost. I do believe that there is a point using photoshop that it becomes more art than photography, more in the expert editing rules. I'm sorry.

Elvis_L

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Nikon AF Nikkor 28-85mm 1:3.5-4.5

05/24/2007 06:20:30 PM · #16

There have been and will be more straight from the camera challenges. they are under the minimal editing ruleset.

now i could spend the next 10 minutes posting shots that were done using basic editing that would have ribboned in advanced challenges, but i won't . look at the past basic editing shots, hell just look at the cultural events blue ribbon.

Message edited by author 2007-05-24 18:23:12.

electrolost

Nikon D200

05/24/2007 06:28:23 PM · #17

photography is a art don't forget that

De Sousa

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

05/24/2007 06:43:25 PM · #18

Zepp, here's my advice.
Try to learn editing tools as soon as you can and you'll stop complaining about advanced editing. You'll love advanced editing,

"because God is not perfect and some times you need to correct His work". (Ansel Adams words in a free translation I did for Ya)

Judi

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Nikon NIKKOR Z 24-120 f/4 S

05/24/2007 06:47:02 PM · #19

Originally posted by De Sousa:

Yup I agree. No one is forcing you to use Photoshop or even any form of editing. It is your choice...so why are we being ridiculed for your choice.

Man_Called_Horse

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

05/24/2007 06:54:30 PM · #20

Zepp,

Personally, I can't wait for the next basic rule set because I already have some ideas.

Equally, I can not wait for the next expert rule set, because, equally, I have some ideas.

The beauty of this site, and being a full member is that there is room to get better, and the rule set restricts your total reliance on the digital darkroom, enhancing the thought process on how you are going to get that image.

Every rule set has there place, and there advantages.

I do wonder if Ansel Adams would of used photoshop if he had it at his disposal.

bassbone

Nikon Z8

05/24/2007 06:56:49 PM · #21

Ansel Adams clearly would have used Photoshop - do you know how much time he spent getting his images just right in the dark room? He dodged and burned the hard way

Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:

Message edited by author 2007-05-24 18:57:42.

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

05/24/2007 07:30:10 PM · #22

Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:

I do wonder if Ansel Adams would of used photoshop if he had it at his disposal.

I worked with Ansel Adams. He was very much in favor of anything that helped a photographer realize his/her vision in the print. He'd have loved the creative possibilities of Photoshop.

R.

TCGuru

Canon EOS-40D

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

05/24/2007 07:34:54 PM · #23

Besides, who says you can't do well with a basic edit?? This was entered in the EXPERT Landscape III and came in 5th

So, go ahead and enter a basic edit...

Elvis_L

Canon EOS-5D Mark II