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 05/15/2007 01:54:41 AM · #1
This is the photo that made first place in vanishing point I You do not need to look hard to find out that there is NO vanishing point there converging at any point in the photo.

Most voters vote for color, focus and the WOW factor; as one guy always puts it; This should have been a DNMC

This is the second place anyone can clearly and easily see the subject of the contes here.

I hope the same mistake is not made again this week! By the unknowledgeable voters of DPC.



Message edited by author 2007-05-15 01:57:06.
 05/15/2007 01:57:45 AM · #2
You don't really like anything, do you?

I think both these are fine examples for the challenge.
 05/15/2007 01:59:30 AM · #3
The road in the previous winning photo is clearly 5.443212965623205066783% narrower at the far end than at the near. Thus, it's vanishing.
 05/15/2007 01:59:37 AM · #4
Originally posted by Lozza:
You don't really like anything, do you?

I think both these are fine examples for the challenge.


Now, this is an example of what I said.
 05/15/2007 02:00:31 AM · #5
Originally posted by levyj413:
The road in the previous winning photo is clearly 5.443212965623205066783% narrower at the far end than at the near. Thus, it's vanishing.


LOOOOOOOL. Good one!
 05/15/2007 02:02:13 AM · #6
Originally posted by TIHadi:
Originally posted by Lozza:
You don't really like anything, do you?

I think both these are fine examples for the challenge.


Now, this is an example of what I said.


What exactly did you say? That everyone else is wrong and you are right?
 05/15/2007 02:02:55 AM · #7
The road vanishes.... disappearing right over top of the ridge. At some point, it's probably just a point, at least in the image. But it's pointless to debate. That point was made 3 years ago. So I think I'll just vanish now and, if nobody else agrees, take my point with me. ;-)


05/15/2007 02:20:12 AM · #8
Funny. Usually voters are accused of being too literal, voting the entry that most obviously met the challenge the highest score.

However your example involves a landscape shot and those are the exception. Landscapes are by far the easiest to avoid low votes on (because everyone loves them, well except me :P) and since they almost always carry lots of wow factor it's hard for them not to do very well, DNMC or not.
 05/15/2007 02:38:15 AM · #9
Originally posted by TIHadi:
This is the photo that made first place in vanishing point I You do not need to look hard to find out that there is NO vanishing point there converging at any point in the photo.

Not only that, it should have been DQ'd for cloning out a major element!
05/15/2007 02:39:37 AM · #10
It sort of depends what you mean by literal, old son. The term usually means 'interpreted according to a dictionary definition', which is odd, at least insofar as dictionaries define nothing but only give a guide to common usage.

So if we (I) don't know what literal means and even if we do know what it means then we don't know what that means either, then at least none of that matters so long as we know what 'vanishing points' means.

Oh dear.

The one on which TIHadi's insisting is, I think, to do with points used in setting out construction of representation of 3 dimensional perspective in 2 dimensions. It's not so terribly impossible, or anti-social, to think of vanishing points as points that (appear to) vanish, or just things that (appear to) get smaller and smaller.

DNMMVSIC Does Not Meet My Vanishingly Small Interpretation of the Challenge.
 05/15/2007 02:44:15 AM · #11
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Originally posted by TIHadi:
This is the photo that made first place in vanishing point I You do not need to look hard to find out that there is NO vanishing point there converging at any point in the photo.

Not only that, it should have been DQ'd for cloning out a major element!


LOL.
 05/15/2007 03:30:28 AM · #12
Originally posted by raish:
It sort of depends what you mean by literal, old son. The term usually means 'interpreted according to a dictionary definition', which is odd, at least insofar as dictionaries define nothing but only give a guide to common usage.

So if we (I) don't know what literal means and even if we do know what it means then we don't know what that means either, then at least none of that matters so long as we know what 'vanishing points' means.

I'm guessing you went to the Bill Clinton School of Interpretive Culpability? ;-)
 05/15/2007 03:43:19 AM · #13
Threads like this bring closer, the day when we will all need legal representation PRIOR to entering a challenge. Said legal representation will have at it's disposal, a team of English Professors, Archaeologists, Museum Curators, the entire staff of Merriam-Webster, a team of sworn-in experts from the U.S. Weights and Measures Division and the staff at MIT amongst others, to seek advise from.
(and that's just to make sure the title is spelled right AND the horizon is level)

It's no wonder I don't like entering challenges much anymore.
 05/15/2007 03:46:08 AM · #14
Originally posted by Brad:
Threads like this bring closer, the day when we will all need legal representation PRIOR to entering a challenge. Said legal representation will have at it's disposal, a team of English Professors, Archaeologists, Museum Curators, the entire staff of Merriam-Webster, a team of sworn-in experts from the U.S. Weights and Measures Division and the staff at MIT amongst others, to seek advise from.
(and that's just to make sure the title is spelled right AND the horizon is level)

It's no wonder I don't like entering challenges much anymore.


Don't forget ApostropheMan will need to be in attendance. ;-)
 05/15/2007 04:13:35 AM · #15
i havent read the whole thread, all i can say is first place is
a hellava lot nicer than 2nd place, and it certainly is vanishing.
 05/15/2007 04:16:05 AM · #16
Totally totally agree.....

Originally posted by goodman:
i havent read the whole thread, all i can say is first place is
a hellava lot nicer than 2nd place, and it certainly is vanishing.
05/15/2007 04:18:25 AM · #17
Originally posted by goodman:
i havent read the whole thread, all i can say is first place is
a hellava lot nicer than 2nd place, and it certainly is vanishing.




well, show me where is the vanishing point in this as I did above
 05/15/2007 04:42:11 AM · #18
I dare anyone to show me where this photo converges!

05/15/2007 04:49:49 AM · #19
Originally posted by TIHadi:
Originally posted by goodman:
i havent read the whole thread, all i can say is first place is
a hellava lot nicer than 2nd place, and it certainly is vanishing.




well, show me where is the vanishing point in this as I did above
'
Ever hear of IMPLIED?
(or alluded to, connoted, hidden, indirect, inferential, inferred, inherent, insinuated, intended, latent, lurking, meant, potential, significative, signified, suggested, symbolized, tacit, tacitly assumed, undeclared, understood)

Come on man, these challenges aren't exacting. Give some leeway and creativity in thinking and in the artistic process. Would you take an eyedropper tool to sample a black section of a picture to see if it was truly hex# 000000, then get a laser-level to see if their horizon was truly level? You've cast 4,200+ votes with an average of 3.4 ? Maybe this site isn't perfect enough for you?

Relax, it's an imperfect world. It's supposed to be fun.
05/15/2007 04:50:15 AM · #20
OK, I'm going to be the lone voice of support for Tareq on this one (sort of). Whilst not often agreeing with him I understand Tareq's (perhaps somewhat pedantic) interpretation of a vanishing point being just that - a point at which parallel lines appear to converge. Frankly, I agree that the 2nd place photo last time 'round is probably a better example of a vanishing point photo than the winner.

What does it matter how strict or liberal someone is in assessing how well a shot meets a challenge, so long as they are consistent?

Just my 2 cents worth.

Q.
05/15/2007 04:54:20 AM · #21
You are being rude and thoroughly obnoxious.

I, along with many others here, are very willing to open our minds to another well known definition of vanishing point: the point beyond which something disappears or ceases to exist.

NOT just converging lines.

Deal with it. Otherwise you simply sound like a raving lunatic.
 05/15/2007 04:59:16 AM · #22
Originally posted by Lozza:
You are being rude and thoroughly obnoxious.

I, along with many others here, are very willing to open our minds to another well known definition of vanishing point: the point beyond which something disappears or ceases to exist.

NOT just converging lines.

Deal with it. Otherwise you simply sound like a raving lunatic.


I do not think your “choice of word” is appropriate; but it is you then it is you.
 05/15/2007 05:03:53 AM · #23
Apparently 18 out of 324 voters agree with your voting mentality, I however do not.

hmmm, scratches head and wonders where votes of one come from!
 05/15/2007 05:04:07 AM · #24
Can we stop the arguing and accept that not everyone will agree with one point of view. Therefore...accept that everyone will interpret a challenge topic differently and will therefore produce a different result, depending on how they see the challenge. Photographers are artists...passionate, determined, pig headed and set in there own minds.

Don't try and change that without expecting people to come charging at you.

Mind you....judging by your past behaviour...that is exactly what you want. So peoples...let Tihadi be lost in his own little world...don't lower yourself and get yourselves all worked up for his benefit. As that is all you are doing. Providing him with cheap entertainment...!!!
 05/15/2007 05:08:51 AM · #25
Originally posted by Judi:
Providing him with cheap entertainment...!!!


sounds real and original coming from you
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