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05/14/2007 08:44:26 PM · #1
can you use gradient map in basic and I know you can use adjustment layers but can you do say curves at 15 opacity?
05/14/2007 08:51:13 PM · #2
the curves at 15% opacity is fine, greating a layer with pixel data in it and applying a gradient is not allowed.

The SC can confirm.
05/14/2007 08:51:58 PM · #3
I was told by SC that gradient map was legal in basic.
05/14/2007 08:54:21 PM · #4
I am confused can you explain this??

"greating a layer with pixel data in it and applying a gradient is not allowed. "

ok lets say I did this many layers without flattening or merging

curves 20 opacity
channel mixer 50 opacity
levels 20 opacity
gradient 15 opacity

I a little green..

Message edited by author 2007-05-14 20:56:30.
05/14/2007 09:18:28 PM · #5
ANY selective editing in basic is a NO, NO.

I guess a gradient could be considered a color corection tool, But...

...if you use a gradient then it must be used in the whole image, not just part.

That means it has to be the top layer in your layers pallet for it to work.

Opacity has not any barring in this issue.

If I were you, I would contact SC directly under the "Help" section of this site.


05/14/2007 09:20:45 PM · #6
thanks for the info
05/14/2007 09:33:29 PM · #7
don't bet anything important on it
05/14/2007 09:34:35 PM · #8
don't bet on what people say?
05/14/2007 09:56:38 PM · #9
Try this thread!!
05/14/2007 10:07:50 PM · #10
Originally posted by electrolost:

I am confused can you explain this??

"greating a layer with pixel data in it and applying a gradient is not allowed. "

ok lets say I did this many layers without flattening or merging

curves 20 opacity
channel mixer 50 opacity
levels 20 opacity
gradient 15 opacity

I a little green..


remember that in basic all layers must be in normal mode.
05/14/2007 11:37:24 PM · #11
Originally posted by Elvis_L:


remember that in basic all layers must be in normal mode.


Yep, your right.
05/14/2007 11:53:18 PM · #12
Guys, you are confusing a gradient map with a gradient layer. Yes, a gradient map is quite fine in basic and as a matter of fact is a simple and effective way to convert to B&W (along with some other color effects).
05/15/2007 01:22:07 AM · #13
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Guys, you are confusing a gradient map with a gradient layer. Yes, a gradient map is quite fine in basic and as a matter of fact is a simple and effective way to convert to B&W (along with some other color effects).


maybe something to learn here.

please explain the difference.

curious.
05/15/2007 01:25:47 AM · #14
A gradient adds pixels were as a gradient map adjusts only the color of existing pixels.
05/15/2007 01:28:37 AM · #15
Originally posted by American_Horse:

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Guys, you are confusing a gradient map with a gradient layer. Yes, a gradient map is quite fine in basic and as a matter of fact is a simple and effective way to convert to B&W (along with some other color effects).


maybe something to learn here.

please explain the difference.

curious.


Easiest for me to show. A gradient map is simply remapping of the tonality of the image.

Here is a gradient mapped image of this photo. I could easily use grays instead of the hyper colors to make the color image black and white.
This is a grey-scale gradient map.
Gradient Map is legal in basic.

This would be a gradient layer. This isn't legal in basic.

Message edited by author 2007-05-15 01:31:10.
05/15/2007 01:37:49 AM · #16
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:


This would be a gradient layer. This isn't legal in basic.


If you didn't selectively applied it like you did here or lowered the opacity (which ever), the gradient would be shown as nothing but a color transition hiding the guy's face completely.
05/15/2007 01:38:30 AM · #17
Most or nearly all my "black and white" images, in the recent "30 Day black and white" challenge, have been processed using gradient map as it seems to be more dramatic for my style of images, and I like it.

As fotomann_forever says, it is legal in "basic", as I also ran a thread some four or five months ago, asking site coincil if it was legal and there reply was yes.

Message edited by author 2007-05-15 01:40:41.
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