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05/11/2007 11:16:01 AM · #51 |
Originally posted by khdoss:
I did work on a low wage, 11,000 a year raising 2 children on my own,in 1983. |
11,000 a year in 1983 is a far cry from 11,000 a year in 2007.
That 11,000 a year in 1983 compares quite favorably to the 50k
you mother makes now.
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05/11/2007 11:20:21 AM · #52 |
Originally posted by RainMotorsports:
As for buying green cars to hurt the oil companies. Oil companies just need to start making Hybrid Batteries. The Customer cost NOT COVERED BY Warranty for the main battery on a Ford Escape Hybrid is 7200 dollars which is replaced every 4 or so years. The toyota Prius has the same battery change interval. |
I've often wondered about this. I've heard they go bad in as few a two years and didn't know the real poop on this deal. I'd never buy a hybrid. There are normal autos that get as good a gas mileage. What we need to do is develop much better batteries and make *ALL* electric cars. Then take the 1 trillion dollars we've wasted in Iraq and build nuke plants to power them. Oh. That's right, we've already wasted it.
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05/11/2007 12:04:28 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by elemess:
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
I work for a chemical company that sells and attempts to sell our products to Wally World and let me tell you they suck.
They squeeze you of your last penny of profit and then demand more lest lose their business. Not to mention slotting fees for Walmart & other big box retailers start around 400k usd. What kind of smallish US manufacturer can sport that that kind of cash up front. Hell they put Rubbermaid out of business and all of Rubbermaid's manufacturing equipment was auctioned off to a company in china that makes shit for Walmart. They are killing manufacturing in the US to the point we import almost everything. Whats with that man?
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Um, Rubbermaid is not out of business. They're headquartered here in Atlanta.
Otherwise, I generally agree with you. |
This is what I was referring too.
"Ruining Rubbermaid. In 1994, Rubbermaid won accolades as the most admired company in the United States—but five years later, its fortunes fell so hard that the company sold itself to a competitor. When the price of a key component of its products went up, Rubbermaid asked WalMart for a modest price increase—but WalMart said no, and stopped sales of Rubbermaid products. At a Rubbermaid factory in Wooster, Ohio, that meant the loss of 1,000 jobs. [PBS Frontline, 11/23/04] " |
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05/11/2007 12:37:36 PM · #54 |
I dont think you will see the Frech store Target doing this.
Wal-Mart |
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05/11/2007 12:40:43 PM · #55 |
Originally posted by Niten:
I dont think you will see the Frech store Target doing this.
Wal-Mart |
As much as i dont have an issue with walmart.
Corporate charity is all about image, very few companies would give away any kind of profit if they werent:
- Doing something else wrong (Planting tree's to make up for the ones they cut down building stores)
- Saving face/creating a charity image after 10 years of bad press
- Its actually making them money in return(RARE) |
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05/11/2007 12:46:30 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
"Ruining Rubbermaid. In 1994, Rubbermaid won accolades as the most admired company in the United States—but five years later, its fortunes fell so hard that the company sold itself to a competitor. When the price of a key component of its products went up, Rubbermaid asked WalMart for a modest price increase—but WalMart said no, and stopped sales of Rubbermaid products. At a Rubbermaid factory in Wooster, Ohio, that meant the loss of 1,000 jobs. [PBS Frontline, 11/23/04] " |
So you are saying that Walmart should be FORCED to stock a product? When the price of a product that you may normally buy goes up, but the competitor product doesn't, are you telling me that you NEVER switch to the cheaper competitor product? Perhaps it isn't Walmart's fault that Rubbermaid failed. Perhaps it is the fault of the supplier of their "key component" who raised the price.
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05/11/2007 01:05:27 PM · #57 |
Originally posted by larryslights:
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
"Ruining Rubbermaid. In 1994, Rubbermaid won accolades as the most admired company in the United States—but five years later, its fortunes fell so hard that the company sold itself to a competitor. When the price of a key component of its products went up, Rubbermaid asked WalMart for a modest price increase—but WalMart said no, and stopped sales of Rubbermaid products. At a Rubbermaid factory in Wooster, Ohio, that meant the loss of 1,000 jobs. [PBS Frontline, 11/23/04] " |
So you are saying that Walmart should be FORCED to stock a product? When the price of a product that you may normally buy goes up, but the competitor product doesn't, are you telling me that you NEVER switch to the cheaper competitor product? Perhaps it isn't Walmart's fault that Rubbermaid failed. Perhaps it is the fault of the supplier of their "key component" who raised the price. |
Nope they can stock what ever they want.
And perhaps you should watch the front-line documentary on the subject. Walmart refused to accept the vendors increase. So they stopped buying from Rubbermaid period thus effectively putting them out of business. Walmart being the biggest customer to many companies in the US if they stop buying it can put that company out of business. Then Walmart goes to China.
So you would rather see our Jobs go to China? |
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05/11/2007 01:15:39 PM · #58 |
It is nice to be able to discuss something as topical as this thread is and not have it get ugly. Thanks for a nice day of intelligent banter and no personal attacks..
For those so inclined to read this kind of book..
The World is Flat. by Thomas L. Friedman
Amazon.com
Updated Edition: Thomas L. Friedman is not so much a futurist, which he is sometimes called, as a presentist. His aim in The World Is Flat, as in his earlier, influential Lexus and the Olive Tree, is not to give you a speculative preview of the wonders that are sure to come in your lifetime, but rather to get you caught up on the wonders that are already here. The world isn't going to be flat, it is flat, which gives Friedman's breathless narrative much of its urgency, and which also saves it from the Epcot-style polyester sheen that futurists--the optimistic ones at least--are inevitably prey to.
What Friedman means by "flat" is "connected": the lowering of trade and political barriers and the exponential technical advances of the digital revolution that have made it possible to do business, or almost anything else, instantaneously with billions of other people across the planet. This in itself should not be news to anyone. But the news that Friedman has to deliver is that just when we stopped paying attention to these developments--when the dot-com bust turned interest away from the business and technology pages and when 9/11 and the Iraq War turned all eyes toward the Middle East--is when they actually began to accelerate. Globalization 3.0, as he calls it, is driven not by major corporations or giant trade organizations like the World Bank, but by individuals: desktop freelancers and innovative startups all over the world (but especially in India and China) who can compete--and win--not just for low-wage manufacturing and information labor but, increasingly, for the highest-end research and design work as well. (He doesn't forget the "mutant supply chains" like Al-Qaeda that let the small act big in more destructive ways.)
Friedman has embraced this flat world in his own work, continuing to report on his story after his book's release and releasing an unprecedented hardcover update of the book a year later with 100 pages of revised and expanded material. What's changed in a year? Some of the sections that opened eyes in the first edition--on China and India, for example, and the global supply chain--are largely unaltered. Instead, Friedman has more to say about what he now calls "uploading," the direct-from-the-bottom creation of culture, knowledge, and innovation through blogging, podcasts, and open-source software. And in response to the pleas of many of his readers about how to survive the new flat world, he makes specific recommendations about the technical and creative training he thinks will be required to compete in the "New Middle" class. As before, Friedman tells his story with the catchy slogans and globe-hopping anecdotes that readers of his earlier books and his New York Times columns know well, and he holds to a stern sort of optimism. He wants to tell you how exciting this new world is, but he also wants you to know you're going to be trampled if you don't keep up with it. A year later, one can sense his rising impatience that our popular culture, and our political leaders, are not helping us keep pace. --Tom Nissley
EYE-OPENING STUFF..
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05/11/2007 07:14:51 PM · #59 |
Originally posted by khdoss:
For those so inclined to read this kind of book..
The World is Flat. by Thomas L. Friedman |
Also available as an audio book for those not inclined to read this kind of book. :) |
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05/12/2007 12:18:31 PM · #60 |
ever hear of "Hoggly-Woggly",or "Piggly-Wiggly" food chains,lol,both were here in the south when i grew up,SCREW WAL-MARX!lolol
Message edited by author 2007-05-12 12:19:13.
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05/12/2007 02:53:34 PM · #61 |
Originally posted by jonnienye:
ever hear of "Hoggly-Woggly",or "Piggly-Wiggly" food chains,lol,both were here in the south when i grew up,SCREW WAL-MARX!lolol |
I lived in Jacson, MS for 2 1/2 years. There was a Piggly Wiggly in Canton (about 30 North). THEY had cheap prices. Cheaper than Walmart, which explains why the closest Walmart...that I knew of...was about 30 miles away.
Message edited by author 2007-05-12 14:53:49. |
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05/12/2007 04:10:58 PM · #62 |
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:
Originally posted by khdoss:
For those so inclined to read this kind of book..
The World is Flat. by Thomas L. Friedman |
Also available as an audio book for those not inclined to read this kind of book. :) |
Seriously, it was a stretch for me to read a non-fiction book. But I watched the author on the Daily Show and I went out and bought the book. Really opened my eyes to what is really going on in the world's economy..
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05/12/2007 07:14:32 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by MrEd:
I lived in Jacson, MS for 2 1/2 years. There was a Piggly Wiggly in Canton (about 30 North). THEY had cheap prices. Cheaper than Walmart, which explains why the closest Walmart...that I knew of...was about 30 miles away. |
I just moved to Madison. Might have to check for the piggly wiggly since Canton is about as far from me as the nearest Kroger. |
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