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04/29/2007 04:17:10 PM · #26 |
Great lesson. I wish I would have read this before I left for my shoot this morning. The sun was way to bright and there are too many shadows in my pictures. They are uploading from my disk now so I will post them in a little bit. We can use them as "what not to do" examples.
What would you recommend if you are in a location that there is no object to block the sun. For example, the beach where it is just a open area?
Would you(or anyone) have a shot of the set-up?
Message edited by author 2007-04-29 16:17:21.
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04/29/2007 04:55:30 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by Artyste:
I won't take up any space in this group officially, but I just wanted to say that if you need any help, advice, critiques, etc. That I'm willing to lend a hand.
I'll also be following this thread closely to get some pointers and influences that I could use in my own portraiture work (Which is 95% Natural Light candid really), but will remain more of a passive lurker on that point. :)
I tried to mentor this area in the first "mentorship" run, but quickly learned I'm not really much of a teacher.
Good luck.. thank you gi_joe for taking this on, and look forward to seeing how it plays out. |
ditto to what Arty said. i'm not much of a teacher as evidenced by the first mentor run but i'm usually around if anyone needs help or advice. like Arty, my specialty is Natural Light portraits.
good luck!
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04/29/2007 05:10:21 PM · #28 |
| I would like to join photoshop 101 if there is still room. Thank you |
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04/29/2007 05:31:12 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by JenniferDavidGA:
Great lesson. I wish I would have read this before I left for my shoot this morning. The sun was way to bright and there are too many shadows in my pictures. They are uploading from my disk now so I will post them in a little bit. We can use them as "what not to do" examples.
What would you recommend if you are in a location that there is no object to block the sun. For example, the beach where it is just a open area?
Would you(or anyone) have a shot of the set-up? |
I do not have a shot, but the beach is going to be the best place to shoot outdoor light ever! just have to know when. this is getting a bit into a different lesson but if you need the info in a pinch, get there an hour before sunset and start shooting about 30 min before sunset, and shoot until the light is gone. I'll explain why in deatial later.
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04/29/2007 06:34:16 PM · #30 |
| This was great! I've used this method many times and your right it is one that's hard to master! |
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04/29/2007 08:17:52 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by sher:
Originally posted by Artyste:
I won't take up any space in this group officially, but I just wanted to say that if you need any help, advice, critiques, etc. That I'm willing to lend a hand.
I'll also be following this thread closely to get some pointers and influences that I could use in my own portraiture work (Which is 95% Natural Light candid really), but will remain more of a passive lurker on that point. :)
I tried to mentor this area in the first "mentorship" run, but quickly learned I'm not really much of a teacher.
Good luck.. thank you gi_joe for taking this on, and look forward to seeing how it plays out. |
ditto to what Arty said. i'm not much of a teacher as evidenced by the first mentor run but i'm usually around if anyone needs help or advice. like Arty, my specialty is Natural Light portraits.
good luck! |
I took a look into your portfolio and found this
this is a great example of the lighting we were talking about.
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04/29/2007 08:28:53 PM · #32 |
Yes, I think my problem today was timing. We shot at 9am. I think they came out ok. It was my first time shooting with a male "model" so I was having problems figuring out posing and such. I pretty much kept it simple. He just needed head shots to send to a casting agenecy. Here are a few.
  
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04/29/2007 09:13:54 PM · #33 |
well these aren't too bad. I think the time of day is what hurt you. I also think that your focus is a little off. I'm sure you can bring that back though. I think your posing was decent, watch cutting his hand in half though.
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04/29/2007 09:28:50 PM · #34 |
Since MY model was not cooperating today he will make his own dinner...er, I had to quickly snap this to get participation. Just before dark.
This was not cropped and made pretty, just posted for assignment. :)
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04/29/2007 09:35:16 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by bergiekat:
Since MY model was not cooperating today he will make his own dinner...er, I had to quickly snap this to get participation. Just before dark.
This was not cropped and made pretty, just posted for assignment. :) |
oooo your were so close, there are some things that are really awesome about this. great, more then I expected for a first try. only problem you are having is one that we have not talked about yet, and it's in the poseing. his shirt has brighting light falling on it then his face does. that is because he is leaning away from the camera. The light on his face is great, the lean is also great. it's the camera angle plus the lean that is a problem. you have him leaning on the wall looking out, which is great but you would have taken half a step to your left it would have been perfect, still having him looking out of frame but you would catch such a frontal view of his shoulders.
overall good job!
p.s. don't worry about a time frame for the assignments, just do them when you can. if we move on to another topic and you have not done the one before it's not a big deal. just do it when you can and post it, it will help some of us refresh. I am planning on building the learning on previous learnings though, so if you are confused please ask questions.
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04/29/2007 09:59:30 PM · #36 |
This one I took first under a rail road track bridge. I forgot my reflector to bounce light to her face.
This is also under the same bridge, but the sun decided to shine and it seeped through the wooden planks.
This wasn't a client. It's my daughter and her friend. We went on a walking trail and I was scouting areas for pics.
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04/29/2007 10:44:35 PM · #37 |
Just to share an example of what's been discussed... We are in our two car garage, with the garage door open. My daughter is siting on a chair that is just back inside enough to be in the shade created by the garage. Outside the garage it is broad daylight. In her lap is a white reflector to send some additional light onto her face (again, no direct light because she, and the reflector, are in the shade). No flash was used. The highlights you see in her eyes are from the open garage door. If you look closely, you can see *me* standing in the open doorway taking the picture. :-)
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04/29/2007 10:59:44 PM · #38 |
WOW, those are Awesome! Thanks for the example! |
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04/29/2007 11:04:21 PM · #39 |
What about something like this?
I took it yesterday, she is standing in the shade cast by the house. I had no reflector with me and used some fill flash. |
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04/29/2007 11:09:24 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by Valdo:
What about something like this?
I took it yesterday, she is standing in the shade cast by the house. I had no reflector with me and used some fill flash. |
I think this looks good too. you guys are catching on fast. I do think that fill flash killed the shot though. do you have any without it? it just flattened out the image. there isn't even the slightest hint of a shadow on her face.
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04/29/2007 11:11:28 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by angelfire:
This one I took first under a rail road track bridge. I forgot my reflector to bounce light to her face.
This is also under the same bridge, but the sun decided to shine and it seeped through the wooden planks.
This wasn't a client. It's my daughter and her friend. We went on a walking trail and I was scouting areas for pics. |
these are really really nice, you have got the idea down. I really liked the first one the best. with a bit of post processing I think you have a really nice shot there. it's also a great example to show that there is direction with this lighting it's just a little faint. see how the right side of her face is a bit brighter then the left.
good job
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04/29/2007 11:13:16 PM · #42 |
great examples here. I was actuly wondering how long it would take for you to turn up here. I thought that you would jump on this.
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04/29/2007 11:51:27 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by gi_joe05:
Originally posted by Valdo:
What about something like this?
I took it yesterday, she is standing in the shade cast by the house. I had no reflector with me and used some fill flash. |
I think this looks good too. you guys are catching on fast. I do think that fill flash killed the shot though. do you have any without it? it just flattened out the image. there isn't even the slightest hint of a shadow on her face. |
Thank you very much I think you are right. I find myself using the flash for everything now, need to pay more attention to that. |
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04/30/2007 12:35:04 AM · #44 |
Originally posted by JenniferDavidGA:
What would you recommend if you are in a location that there is no object to block the sun. For example, the beach where it is just a open area?
Would you(or anyone) have a shot of the set-up? |
If you can, time it so that you get the light coming in at a different direction. If you can't, then bring cover. Overhead diffusers will do the trick though you'll have to watch the exposure on your background (compose accordingly).
Or overpower daylight ;) Though that's not exactly in the spirit of the original topic.
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04/30/2007 11:20:59 AM · #45 |
I had a chance to try this on a whim yesterday while at the arboretum with the kids. There was a tiny shelter about 4x6 big off to the side of the path. I was able to get them to sit still for about 90 seconds... well, that depends on your definition of "still"
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04/30/2007 01:08:12 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by wavelength:
I had a chance to try this on a whim yesterday while at the arboretum with the kids. There was a tiny shelter about 4x6 big off to the side of the path. I was able to get them to sit still for about 90 seconds... well, that depends on your definition of "still"
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this is getting there. the light is nice, except on her arm, but its overall underexposed. the catch lights look like you did it right though
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04/30/2007 01:18:24 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by gi_joe05:
this is getting there. the light is nice, except on her arm, but its overall underexposed. the catch lights look like you did it right though |
Yeah, I try to keep the shutter short with the kids, a bit toooo short ;) |
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04/30/2007 03:07:28 PM · #48 |
If anyone has any questions I will also be around to answer. Specifically if anyone needs help with homework :-)
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04/30/2007 05:04:07 PM · #49 |
When done right, it looks like this.
this is a shot from my graduating portfolio, not saying it's perfect, but it's a visual to what I was teaching.
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04/30/2007 06:18:54 PM · #50 |
ok, so I'm a little new at this still. is it time to move on you think? if not, when do you think we should?
also, What do YOU want to learn. I'm trying to map out things in my head as to what to teach next. I have a good idea but was wanting some input from you guys, would love to hear what it is you would like to learn most.
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