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04/24/2007 08:24:27 PM · #1 |
Hey all, i recently shot a party, and I've been trying out a style for "party" style photos, and would like your opinion. Do you like? do you hate? anything to improve?
My pictures are at:
My Gallery
other photographers pics
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oh, and don't worry, the party was pretty crazy, but no naked pictures, just uni students in stupid costumes. And yes, this was an official university organised party lol :P
Anyway, this is how I did the pictures. equipment - 350d, 18-55 crappo lens, 580ex with home made diffuser (piece of paper rubber banded on). Essentially I set the shutter speed at 1/2 ~1/3 seconds, and shot wide open, and iso was at 800, with flash set to second curtain sync, on ettl2.
The idea was I wanted a blurred "crazy" background with light trails etc, but a sharp picture of the people i was taking a photo of.
Comments please :)
Message edited by author 2007-04-24 20:29:31. |
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04/25/2007 11:11:36 AM · #2 |
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04/25/2007 11:15:42 AM · #3 |
I think you captured a "party mood" just great!
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04/25/2007 12:02:29 PM · #4 |
seeing all those pretty girls at that college party sorta makes me want to get educated. :0
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04/25/2007 01:10:34 PM · #5 |
I had to do some pics for a friend last year - Was fun but hard work!
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04/25/2007 01:31:59 PM · #6 |
here are some of mine //www.nightlife.se/popup/imageview_popup.aspx?ic_id=773809&im_id=3321931&startnr=3
They are taken at a nightclub here in Gothenburg, and it was pretty dark - even for a club.
equipment and settings: Canon rebel xt, 20-35/2.8L at f6.3, sb-28 with bounce card set at 1/4, shutter: 1/4-0.4, iso 200.
Stuff like this make up for over half my income, I've shot for a couple of sites, two papers and done a studio-shoot for smirnof. But right now I'm between assignments so I've got to much spare time.
There's money in what you are doing and I'm pretty sure that with the quality of your images you could do it professionaly.
Message edited by author 2007-04-25 13:36:17. |
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04/25/2007 01:48:34 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by jblaylockrayner:
I had to do some pics for a friend last year - Was fun but hard work!
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Not to hijack, but what was your lighting setup here?
It isn't just the sun is it?
Looks like a strobe or two.
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04/25/2007 01:58:05 PM · #8 |
One quick observation, you said you shot wide open.
I think closing it down a few stops - wherever the sweet spot for that lens is - would crispen things up a bit.
You are working a speedlight so you can get away with a smaller ap.
Looks like it was fun, oh how I miss our parties like that!
We ended up w/ outdoor topless breakdance-wrestling once.
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04/25/2007 01:59:56 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by xantangummi:
here are some of mine //www.nightlife.se/popup/imageview_popup.aspx?ic_id=773809&im_id=3321931&startnr=3
They are taken at a nightclub here in Gothenburg, and it was pretty dark - even for a club.
equipment and settings: Canon rebel xt, 20-35/2.8L at f6.3, sb-28 with bounce card set at 1/4, shutter: 1/4-0.4, iso 200.
Stuff like this make up for over half my income, I've shot for a couple of sites, two papers and done a studio-shoot for smirnof. But right now I'm between assignments so I've got to much spare time.
There's money in what you are doing and I'm pretty sure that with the quality of your images you could do it professionaly. |
You were using a tripod right?? |
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04/25/2007 02:02:38 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Valdo:
You were using a tripod right?? |
no, I don't use tripods for that kind of photography
Message edited by author 2007-04-25 14:02:55. |
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04/25/2007 02:29:58 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by xantangummi:
Originally posted by Valdo:
You were using a tripod right?? |
no, I don't use tripods for that kind of photography |
Yeah, kinda hard to drag your shutter on a tripod. |
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04/25/2007 02:37:30 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by wavelength:
Yeah, kinda hard to drag your shutter on a tripod. |
Atleast if you are concerned about hitting people in the head with your expensive tripod. :D |
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04/25/2007 02:38:21 PM · #13 |
| By the way diablo, your shot were the best of all the ones you posted. |
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04/25/2007 03:01:42 PM · #14 |
Really all those pictures did for me was make me project 14 years into the future when my 3-year-old girl enters college...
You said this party was university sanctioned? *shudder* |
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04/25/2007 08:44:46 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by rswank:
Originally posted by jblaylockrayner:
I had to do some pics for a friend last year - Was fun but hard work!
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Not to hijack, but what was your lighting setup here?
It isn't just the sun is it?
Looks like a strobe or two. |
Yes I placed one soft box in the front and metered for the guy in the pool.
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04/25/2007 08:49:37 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Really all those pictures did for me was make me project 14 years into the future when my 3-year-old girl enters college...
You said this party was university sanctioned? *shudder* |
Be glad for small favors. My daughter hit halfway to college last summer.
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04/26/2007 10:14:57 AM · #17 |
firstly, sorry for those with daughters going into college... Don't worry, not everyone goes to those parties, and i'm sure your kids will be good :)
the reason i shot wide open was because I wanted as much ambient light as i could get... maybe i went a bit overboard? In terms of sharpness, i think the biggest problem was the fact i was manual focussing :P ... i had camera set to ai servo, so no autofocus assit lamp (which i thought was broken at the time :P)
xantangummi: I really like your pictures, thats pretty much the same effect i was going for, except yours are lot cleaner looking. are the settings for those the same as you've listed in your post? Also, what do you mean by "1/4 bounce card"? Did you bounce of ceiling? or direct flash? how is it that it looks like you have the same level of ambient light in your photos at f/6.3, iso 200, when i'm using f/3.5~4.5 at iso800 lol? am i doing something wrong, or am i just overkilling the ambient light?
For my shots, i bounced off the ceiling, with a bounce card rubber banded onto my flash for a little forward light.
Oh and also, for those who shoot professionally at clubs etc, how did you get into that? did you approach clubs by yourself? were you asked to shoot for them? How did you get into the market?
Message edited by author 2007-04-26 10:18:24. |
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04/26/2007 10:53:18 AM · #18 |
You did a good job. Its similar to when I am shooting at wedding receptions after the dinner/speeches etc and everyone is drinking and dancing. What I usually do is get a rough meter reading for the room using manual mode, drop it so it is 1&1/3 under-exposed then use the flash to freeze the motion (using the second curtain mode on the 580ex). Works great. Also, remember the ceiling isnt the only thing you can bounce the flash off, if you are near to one, bounce it off the wall for adding a bit more depth to the shot.
You ask about how to get `into` club photography.. I have done a wee bit over here in the UK and to get the work I use a site called //www.dontstayin.com basically every week I get an email from the site saying whats going on in the area and any clubs/bands etc who are looking for photographers to come along.. initially its unpaid work, but as you get more recognised the offers of paid work come in... But you do get free entry into gigs/clubs etc. and some of those girls LOVE posing in front of the camera. Ohhhhhh yeaaaaah.
Some of the club 'togs on there have very unique styles so you could learn a lot just by browsing through the galleries. Hope this helps.
EDIT - Just checked the site and I forgot it is international, so everyone here should go and check it out.
Originally posted by diablo2097:
the reason i shot wide open was because I wanted as much ambient light as i could get... maybe i went a bit overboard? In terms of sharpness, i think the biggest problem was the fact i was manual focussing :P ... i had camera set to ai servo, so no autofocus assit lamp (which i thought was broken at the time :P)
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04/26/2007 11:50:05 AM · #19 |
I didn't even think about that. I think my daughters will have to settle for the neighborhood tech school, But perhaps I will one day personally investigate the university party life before deciding which college to pay for. Anyone wanna help me investigate? :-)
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Really all those pictures did for me was make me project 14 years into the future when my 3-year-old girl enters college...
You said this party was university sanctioned? *shudder* |
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04/26/2007 12:02:18 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by Simms:
What I usually do is get a rough meter reading for the room using manual mode, drop it so it is 1&1/3 under-exposed then use the flash to freeze the motion (using the second curtain mode on the 580ex). Works great.
You ask about how to get `into` club photography.. I have done a wee bit over here in the UK and to get the work I use a site called //www.dontstayin.com Some of the club 'togs on there have very unique styles so you could learn a lot just by browsing through the galleries. Hope this helps.
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This guy's "party" stuff is pretty sweet...
This pic reminds me of the inside cover of Paul's Boutique.
Do you think he leaves the shutter open even longer to get this cool color motion?
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04/26/2007 12:33:06 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by rswank:
Originally posted by Simms:
What I usually do is get a rough meter reading for the room using manual mode, drop it so it is 1&1/3 under-exposed then use the flash to freeze the motion (using the second curtain mode on the 580ex). Works great.
You ask about how to get `into` club photography.. I have done a wee bit over here in the UK and to get the work I use a site called //www.dontstayin.com Some of the club 'togs on there have very unique styles so you could learn a lot just by browsing through the galleries. Hope this helps.
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This guy's "party" stuff is pretty sweet...
This pic reminds me of the inside cover of Paul's Boutique.
Do you think he leaves the shutter open even longer to get this cool color motion?
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Oh yeah, defintely, and thats probably on 2nd curtain shutter sync. Nice shot, the thing with clubs, with all the lights n smoke you can probably get some AMAZING images. |
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04/26/2007 01:47:01 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by diablo2097:
..are the settings for those the same as you've listed in your post? Also, what do you mean by "1/4 bounce card"? Did you bounce of ceiling? or direct flash? how is it that it looks like you have the same level of ambient light in your photos at f/6.3, iso 200, when i'm using f/3.5~4.5 at iso800 lol? am i doing something wrong, or am i just overkilling the ambient light?
Oh and also, for those who shoot professionally at clubs etc, how did you get into that? did you approach clubs by yourself? were you asked to shoot for them? How did you get into the market? |
Basicly in flash photography the aparture controls how much flash you get and the shutter controls the amount of ambient light. So just use longer shutter speeds the next time and be careful not to "burn" anyones face with the ambient light, poeple don't like that.
I have my flash set at 1/4 strength(with a small white car behind it) and use my camera in manual mode, I change the shutter on the fly, depending on the amount of ambient light in the scene. I don't use a meter any more because I know which effect I'm going for and how to get it.
//www.nightlife.se/popup/imageview_popup.aspx?ic_id=773294&im_id=3315579&startnr=9
here's a bit of earlier photos, actually the first ones that I did for that site, metro sweden is using the one I linked to promote their onlie club pages and three others of them got published in an national evening paper.
About how to get into club photography.
I just answered an online ad and started working for an online club community the next week. Then it just started rolling, people saw my name on the site and asked me to photograph private parties, I passed out business cards and got a couple of gigs from a advertising agency. Another site I worked for submited some of my shots to a couple of papers and today, only four hours ago I got a call from a guy who used to work as a coordinator for a site.
He had started his own site with the help of the lifestyle magazine "pause" and now I'm going to do some jobs for him this weekend and my shots are going to be published in the magazine.
I have gotten paid from day one, but the better I perform the better clubs I get to work in and now I even get to choose were I want to go.
So the way to get jobs is to get known, and don't be afraid to email or call people asking if they want you to work for them.
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