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04/16/2007 02:05:11 PM · #26 |
I use soy milk. It lasts a lot longer in the fridge anyway.
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04/16/2007 04:01:11 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by Rebecca:
I made the mistake of taking a 24-hour Claritin yesterday afternoon when my nose wouldn't quit running and sneezing, stupid allergies. I'm very tired, but can't sleep. I tossed and turned for three hours, too hot and feeling my heart race until I finally just gave up. I'm extremely frustrated. I have to go to work today, I have class tonight... I need to sleep! What do you do when you can't sleep? |
lol i get 3-4 hours sleep every night and then i get up at 4am for work lol. Mind you in 19 so i can last longer on less sleep :P In all seriousness, try a gravol, that helps me if i really cant sleep at all, one or 2 of those and you'll fall asleep easier. Swallow that with some warm milk and your done :D
Message edited by author 2007-04-16 16:03:10. |
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04/16/2007 04:06:22 PM · #28 |
| I get up, have a cup of tea and a ciggie, standing outside looking at the sky is best. Then, back to bed and plan how to spend a lottery win, never got past the first million. But, you can't just say a big house and expensive cars. You have to think normal, like new camera and what lenses would be good, how you would use it and on what subjects. Believe me, you soon go to sleep happy :)) |
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04/16/2007 04:14:37 PM · #29 |
This suggestion probably was allready posted, but I'll take the shot. This works for me anyway!
I lay down on my back, make sure nothing is irritating me (sheets that are stuck, fingers or toes that are against eachother (I wiggle them ;)).
Then I concentrate on my toes. Try to be aware of each one. Relax my toes. And then I go to my legs, knees, upperlegs, back, front, shoulders, arms, hands, neck and head and do the same.
Most of the time I'm asleep when I've reached my arms ;) |
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04/16/2007 04:21:49 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by biteme:
This suggestion probably was allready posted, but I'll take the shot. This works for me anyway!
I lay down on my back, make sure nothing is irritating me (sheets that are stuck, fingers or toes that are against eachother (I wiggle them ;)).
Then I concentrate on my toes. Try to be aware of each one. Relax my toes. And then I go to my legs, knees, upperlegs, back, front, shoulders, arms, hands, neck and head and do the same.
Most of the time I'm asleep when I've reached my arms ;) |
This is the classic method used during meditation, but you have to ensure you DON'T go to sleep. But it does work well for sleep too:) |
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04/16/2007 04:23:43 PM · #31 |
There's a few posts with incorrect information here:
1) Claritin (loratadine) is not associate with meth. Claritin-D (the "D" means "sudafed added") can be because of the Sudafed, but not the loratadine.
Did you take a Claritin or a Claritin-D? Insomnia is an uncommon side effect of antihistamines (if anything they tend to have the opposite effect). A few people do have a paradoxical reaction where insomnia occurs. It may be related to the fact that antihistamines can seem to exacerbate restless leg syndrome. If you took a Claritin-D, however, it is quite likely you have insomnia which is a common side effect of Sudafed.
The answer is not to take the -D. The better answer is to switch to a nasal steroid which are superior to antihistamines in their control of symptoms. Their downside is that a) you need a prescription b) they act slower and need to be taken regularly (every day) during your allergy season.
One home rememdy for falling asleep which oddly enough works is to put your pillow at the foot of your bed and sleep upside down. The change in position can fool your brain out of whatever rut it is in and you can fall asleep. However, if you are up because of a med (ie. the sudafed), it will probably be tough to fall asleep until the med is out of your system.
Message edited by author 2007-04-16 16:25:07.
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04/16/2007 04:24:59 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by formerlee:
Originally posted by biteme:
This suggestion probably was allready posted, but I'll take the shot. This works for me anyway!
I lay down on my back, make sure nothing is irritating me (sheets that are stuck, fingers or toes that are against eachother (I wiggle them ;)).
Then I concentrate on my toes. Try to be aware of each one. Relax my toes. And then I go to my legs, knees, upperlegs, back, front, shoulders, arms, hands, neck and head and do the same.
Most of the time I'm asleep when I've reached my arms ;) |
This is the classic method used during meditation, but you have to ensure you DON'T go to sleep. But it does work well for sleep too:) |
so, what to do for meditation? just don't fall asleep? is it that simple? |
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04/16/2007 04:27:33 PM · #33 |
| Nope, biteme, it takes a lot of practice. I never mastered this type of meditation. I used the Zazen method, where you find a place that is quite busy. You sit and relax and soon the sounds around you blend and aid meditation. I found sitting in a quiet room too noisy. Any little noise breaks the concentration. |
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04/16/2007 04:32:11 PM · #34 |
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04/16/2007 04:35:31 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
Sex is good. |
Yep, sex is god.
Sorry, sex is good!
Message edited by author 2007-04-16 16:37:04. |
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04/16/2007 04:37:29 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by formerlee:
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
Sex is good. |
Yep, sex is god.
Sorry, sex is good! |
If that wasn't a Freudian Slip, I'm not sure what is...
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04/16/2007 04:40:35 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
There's a few posts with incorrect information here:
1) Claritin (loratadine) is not associate with meth. Claritin-D (the "D" means "sudafed added") can be because of the Sudafed, but not the loratadine.
Did you take a Claritin or a Claritin-D? Insomnia is an uncommon side effect of antihistamines (if anything they tend to have the opposite effect). A few people do have a paradoxical reaction where insomnia occurs. It may be related to the fact that antihistamines can seem to exacerbate restless leg syndrome. If you took a Claritin-D, however, it is quite likely you have insomnia which is a common side effect of Sudafed.
The answer is not to take the -D. The better answer is to switch to a nasal steroid which are superior to antihistamines in their control of symptoms. Their downside is that a) you need a prescription b) they act slower and need to be taken regularly (every day) during your allergy season.
One home rememdy for falling asleep which oddly enough works is to put your pillow at the foot of your bed and sleep upside down. The change in position can fool your brain out of whatever rut it is in and you can fall asleep. However, if you are up because of a med (ie. the sudafed), it will probably be tough to fall asleep until the med is out of your system. |
Yup, it was a 24-hour D. My allergies generally aren't bad enough to warrant a prescription, just yesterday when something was bugging me so that my nose was a virtual sneeze and snot factory and interfering with getting work done. My grocery store doesn't carry the 12-hour formula anymore, which sucks since that version seemed to work a whole lot better.
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04/16/2007 05:06:43 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by Rebecca:
Yup, it was a 24-hour D. My allergies generally aren't bad enough to warrant a prescription, just yesterday when something was bugging me so that my nose was a virtual sneeze and snot factory and interfering with getting work done. My grocery store doesn't carry the 12-hour formula anymore, which sucks since that version seemed to work a whole lot better. |
So next time, if you even feel like it after this episode, try just regular generic Claritin. It will have the name "loratadine". You can find other brand names like Alavert which have loratadine as well, but the generic tends to be the cheapest. I promise without the -D it has a much smaller chance of you getting side effects like this. I hardly use -D anymore because of the large number of people who experience adverse reactions.
If you can take Benadryl and it does not keep you up, you will very likely not have a problem with loratadine.
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04/16/2007 06:57:07 PM · #39 |
I usually take a benadryl (Diphenhydramine) at night if I need help with getting to sleep. It also helps with the sniffles.
Diphenhydramine is also marketed as a sleep aid, but, for whatever reason, it's less expensive if purchased as an allergy remedy. My sister, the pharmacist, filled me in on that.
Just gives me a warm fuzzy feeling and I get my eight straight. Nice.
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04/16/2007 07:13:25 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by Rebecca:
Yup, it was a 24-hour D. My allergies generally aren't bad enough to warrant a prescription, just yesterday when something was bugging me so that my nose was a virtual sneeze and snot factory and interfering with getting work done. My grocery store doesn't carry the 12-hour formula anymore, which sucks since that version seemed to work a whole lot better. |
oh my do I feel for you. My allergies only hit me every couple years and this year is bad. They haven't been interferring with my sleep...thank goodness...but man do my eyes itch and nose run all day long. It's miserable. I can't even go outside without my sunglasses cause the bright sun does something and ends up making my eyes water so much that I can't even see. I think it has to do with all the weird weather we've been having, but I'm not sure since I don't know how it usually is here in Okinawa Japan. I just can't wait for it to pass.
Good luck on your fight. One thing I've always heard and you may have to watch out for now that you've been up, it might be ok to take a short nap later in the day but make sure it isn't too long. If you get too much sleep you won't be able to get the full night you need when it is time to go to bed.
edit to add...I worked with a girl that NEVER slept. Her roommate said it used to drive her crazy cause the girl was up reading all the time. She would go through those thick romance novels in like one or two nights. She said the only time she ever sleeps is if she drinks coffee. Her roommate confirmed, if she drinks a cup of coffee she'll be out for a good hour or two. Her body is whacky!
Message edited by author 2007-04-16 19:16:23. |
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04/16/2007 07:14:18 PM · #41 |
You should always try the non drug ways before taking things to sleep.
The meditation one I use every "DAY" (I am a night shift ED RN) when going to sleep. I usually either try to make my toes warmer than the rest of my body and work up as  biteme does/suggested, or trying to make them heavier, like lead (works best for me).
Gentle stretching before bed always helps me also.
I have a coworker (RN, so he should know better) that takes pills to sleep, Requip to wake up, only drinks 3 cups of coffee (WITH 6 "SHOTS" IN IT), not to mention he is diabetic anyway. He is in a vicious circle. His health is not that good right now either, because of all this. But instead of breaking the chain (given 5 mandatory days off to rest), he continues the same cycle.
Oh yes...I have been awake for 28 hours now, but because I worked all weekend, have today off, and have to take care of my 4 year old mokey boy today. Sleep will come soon and well for me, when his mother picks him up. :) Even though I am known frequently stay awake for 36+ hours on end. Cuz I got things I wanna do. :)
Message edited by author 2007-04-16 19:17:34.
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04/16/2007 07:32:45 PM · #42 |
It sounds like you might have a sensitivity to Pseudoephedrine, that is what makes it a decongestant. Phenylephrine is the subsitute for it for many other OTC drugs because of the meth link.
I'm sensitive to pseudoephedrine. It makes me very anxious, jumpy, and exhausted (but restless so I cannot sleep at all). In all, it makes me feel like a zombie if I take it for too long. It's gotten so bad that I know within 15 minutes if some cold or flu medicine had pseudoephedrine in it. It stinks because it's hard to find cold meds that do not have a decongestant in it. I haven't tried Phenylephrine based meds to see if that has the same reaction, but I hear from others that it's not as good of a decongestant.
I just stay away from it when I can. I have no problem with caffeine though. I can drink it all day and have no problem sleeping. |
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04/16/2007 07:55:02 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by amirt:
I haven't tried Phenylephrine based meds to see if that has the same reaction, but I hear from others that it's not as good of a decongestant. |
Correct on both accounts. Less side effects. Less effective.
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04/16/2007 08:13:49 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
Sex is good. |
and for variety I like to try it with someone... |
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04/16/2007 08:16:51 PM · #45 |
Take nyquil.
Edited for appropriateness.
Message edited by author 2007-04-16 20:18:04.
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04/16/2007 08:22:18 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by amirt:
It sounds like you might have a sensitivity to Pseudoephedrine, that is what makes it a decongestant. Phenylephrine is the subsitute for it for many other OTC drugs because of the meth link.
I'm sensitive to pseudoephedrine. It makes me very anxious, jumpy, and exhausted (but restless so I cannot sleep at all). In all, it makes me feel like a zombie if I take it for too long. It's gotten so bad that I know within 15 minutes if some cold or flu medicine had pseudoephedrine in it. It stinks because it's hard to find cold meds that do not have a decongestant in it. I haven't tried Phenylephrine based meds to see if that has the same reaction, but I hear from others that it's not as good of a decongestant.
I just stay away from it when I can. I have no problem with caffeine though. I can drink it all day and have no problem sleeping. |
I'm actually caffeine sensitive.. it aggravates my TMJ somehow, so I only allow it on days like today when its only effect is to bring me up from nearly comatose to somewhat functional. I do think you're right, that I'm probably sensitive to the decongestant stuff. I've had to go home sick from work more than once after taking a decongestant, thanks to the vertigo, nausea, and general lack of ability to think clearly. I tried the Claritin-D because it wasn't going to knock me out like normal decongestants do. I always figured this was because I have an aversion to taking medicine in general. Not a phobia at all, but I just don't like to do it. All I ever take on a regular basis is naproxen and meclizine (my anti-migraine one-two punch). I even turned down a migraine prescription since I just didn't see it as necessary when I have a routine that I know works well enough. Anyway, as a non-pill popper sort, I think that my body has built up zero tolerances for any of this stuff and it always seems to affect me to the maximum degree.
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04/16/2007 08:26:17 PM · #47 |
Well,
I'm not into discussing drugs :D
Going to bed to try to sleep - Can't surf the net forever...
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04/17/2007 02:25:56 AM · #48 |
Surprised to see this thread still active. Did anybody get any sleep??
I made it to bed at 8am, got about 4 hours, back to work at noon. I've been in a sleepless cycle for probably over a year. I like to think I use it to my advantage by getting work done at night without interruption, but that doesn't work when I show up here. :( |
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04/17/2007 02:29:16 AM · #49 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Surprised to see this thread still active. Did anybody get any sleep??
I made it to bed at 8am, got about 4 hours, back to work at noon. I've been in a sleepless cycle for probably over a year. I like to think I use it to my advantage by getting work done at night without interruption, but that doesn't work when I show up here. :( |
No >.< lol Ive get tired so easily nowadays
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04/18/2007 12:47:49 AM · #50 |
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