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03/25/2007 03:01:48 AM · #1
For some time now, I have found myself shooting less and less, mostly because I hate lugging my camera places, even just the body and one lens. It's just too cumbersome.

I'm considering selling my 10D and all of my lenses/accessories and getting an advanced PnS camera instead such as the Canon G7 or the Nikon P5000. Neither one is exactly an idiot-proof PnS, but both are much more compact and, perhaps most importantly, will still allow for external flash, either a dedicated E-TTL/iTTL strobe or studio lighting.

Aside from the G7 or P5000, does anyone have any other suggestions? Aside from being smaller than a DSLR, the camera must have full Manual, Av, Tv modes and a hotshoe/pc terminal for external flash.

Price does come into play somewhat. I can't spend any more than what I can get for my current gear, so I think that eliminates the Leica M8 anyway.

03/25/2007 03:16:37 AM · #2
For fear of sounding like I'm affiliated with Sigma (posting it in two threads)... The DP1 sounds like it would be great for what you describe, and depending on the price I'm seriously thinking about getting one:
//www.dpreview.com/news/0703/07030807sigmadp1.asp
03/25/2007 03:24:26 AM · #3
g7 is a nice camera.

and ps i shotty your 85mm and 12-24mm!
03/25/2007 03:56:00 AM · #4
You know.. that DP1 looks like a fine camera for going back to ye olde pointe and shoote
03/25/2007 04:23:36 AM · #5
wow, the Sigma does sound promising... Also consider brands like Leica and such.
03/25/2007 04:31:20 AM · #6
Don't forget the Ricoh GR Digital.
03/25/2007 04:36:24 AM · #7
I went to Europe 2 years ago and sometimes lamented that I didn't have a point and shoot that would fit into my pocket. My camera always felt like an extra piece of luggage. But when I got back and looked at my photos and had some printed I was glad that I did. You could keep the DSLR and buy a PnS (They are cheap enough) for the times that you dont feel like carting the whole kit around. I think you will be disappointed if you take the step backwards. At the moment I have been doing a lot of travelling on weekends and I take my DSLR with me everywhere. I keep it handy if I need to stop quickly and take that once in a liftime shot.
03/25/2007 05:34:31 AM · #8
Originally posted by Monique64:

I went to Europe 2 years ago and sometimes lamented that I didn't have a point and shoot that would fit into my pocket. My camera always felt like an extra piece of luggage. But when I got back and looked at my photos and had some printed I was glad that I did. You could keep the DSLR and buy a PnS (They are cheap enough) for the times that you dont feel like carting the whole kit around. I think you will be disappointed if you take the step backwards. At the moment I have been doing a lot of travelling on weekends and I take my DSLR with me everywhere. I keep it handy if I need to stop quickly and take that once in a liftime shot.


i think that's good advice. actually, i'm thinking about doing the same thing. i love my camera, but sometimes i just wanna snap without carting 3 kg of camera gear.

perhaps get a good PnS as a backup, keep the 10D as your main gun (since i'm sure it's a good camera).
03/25/2007 12:27:51 PM · #9
Originally posted by ben4345:

wow, the Sigma does sound promising... Also consider brands like Leica and such.


I would love a Leica M8, but at $4800 for the body, it's a bit out of my price range.
03/25/2007 12:33:02 PM · #10
I found that I use my canon SD800is more and more. It won't replace my D70 completely but it fits my pocket much better so I can take it with me all the time. G7 would probably better option but it is not a pocket size camera.

Message edited by author 2007-03-25 12:33:26.
03/25/2007 01:08:28 PM · #11
This would be my first choice.

On a budget I'd choose an older 828.
03/25/2007 03:07:24 PM · #12
Originally posted by zeuszen:

This would be my first choice.



Yes, the M8 would be mine too, but I doubt that my budget will allow such a purchase anytime soon.

My dad is letting me borrow his camera to see if I think it will work for what I want.

I have used it before and been quite pleased with the results. It's certainly not a shirt pocket camera, but more of a jacket pocket one.
03/25/2007 04:15:21 PM · #13
Spaz Mo,

Just buy the Fujifilm S6000. I just bought one last month to serve as a backup for my growing list of equipment. I love it. sometimes, when I am in a lazy mood, I just take that. I fact, I hauled everything out for the "Circle challenge" and in the end, I just used the S6000. Too much.

The awesome thing with the S6000 is the manual zoom, just like a "real" dSLR. But, the biggy is that it saves big time on the battery.

I have owned 5 fujifilm cameras in the past (S7000, E900, S5100, S5200, S6000), and they have all rendered excellent colors and excellent images. And this S6000 beats the pants off of all the others. It also accepts filters, if you want to indulge that desire.

In any case, best of luck in your choice.

Oh yes, enter more challenges buddy! You have a nice touch:)


03/25/2007 04:57:55 PM · #14
The Epson R-D1 is a digital rangefinder; the first, actually. It sometimes goes on sale for about $1600 (refurbished) straight from Epson.

If you're wanting to get into RF's, though, film opens up a lot more possibilities.
03/25/2007 05:08:30 PM · #15
The G7 is nice on the outside but it has issues. The zoom is the attractive feature so is the Digic 3 processor.

The A630 and A640 are very powerful with their 1 downfall being 8 and 10 megapixels with a small sensor they blow out highlights like no other.... :-(. If you turn the flash power down the A630 will actuall strobe its flash with continous drive at 1.5 fps which is as slow as the A640's continous drive anyways.

G7:
ISO 400 and higher is really flippin noisy
iso 1600 almost as noisy as Fuji S6000/S9000
ISO 3200 is low res only
COntinous drive is slow if your using iso 400 - 3200
Uses non standard Exif
Bad purple fringing (reminds me of the S3 IS)
Flourescent auto WB just as bad as incandescent

THe G7 does not shoot raw like the G6
03/26/2007 01:38:11 AM · #16
Thanks for the suggestions everybody. I'm eager to see how my dad's Oly 8080 fills my shooting needs as a 10D replacement. Since he almost never uses it anymore, preferring his Stylus 810, he may give me a good deal that might only require selling a lens. ( yeah, I know, used they're only about $450, but, I'm broke.)

Originally posted by MadMan2k:

The Epson R-D1 is a digital rangefinder; the first, actually. It sometimes goes on sale for about $1600 (refurbished) straight from Epson.

If you're wanting to get into RF's, though, film opens up a lot more possibilities.


This one sounds promising, even though it's a few years old. Really opens up the possibilities for lenses too.

I know film opens up a lot of camera possibilities, but I really don't feel like going back to processing film to get some family snaps. If I feel the urge to shoot film, I still have a few toys like my Olympus XA or my Contessamat RF that take film.

Originally posted by MadMan2k:

For fear of sounding like I'm affiliated with Sigma (posting it in two threads)... The DP1 sounds like it would be great for what you describe, and depending on the price I'm seriously thinking about getting one:
//www.dpreview.com/news/0703/07030807sigmadp1.asp


I think this one will be worth waiting on to see what its actual price is and read a few reviews.
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