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03/11/2007 09:36:33 PM · #1
Some question for you.

How often are you suppose to clean your sensor?

Does Sensor dust affect how sharp the picture will be?

And should I do it or take it some place to get it cleaned. I probably could do it. I just don't want to mess it up.

Thanks for you help
Phillip

03/11/2007 09:37:55 PM · #2
I only clean when the dust bunnies are so noticeable that they're intruding into every (or very important) shots. I haven't even thought about cleaning for several months now.
03/11/2007 09:45:23 PM · #3
Sensor dust doesn't show up very much at larger apertures (f/2.8 to f/5.6). At smaller apertures (f/11 and beyond), sensor dust becomes very problematic.

So... if I know I'm going to be shooting wide open (or nearly wide open) then I don't even worry about sensor dust. But before a big family group shoot, or a landscape shoot, I'll check it out.

To check for sensor dust, try pointing at a blank wall, defocus the lens, set the aperture for f/22 (and however long exposure it calculates). Don't worry if it's a long exposure. You're not taking a picture of the wall so camera shake doesn't matter (in fact, I usually do it on purpose). Afterwards, bring the image into Photoshop and do an Auto Levels on it. Those dust bunnies will really show up! (it'll be almost scary how dirty your sensor is!)

Message edited by author 2007-03-11 21:46:18.
03/11/2007 09:49:59 PM · #4
thanks for the help but does it affect how sharp the picture turns out?
03/11/2007 10:02:35 PM · #5
The dust bunnies are usually only tiny particles. So how does it affect how sharp the image is? Very much at smaller f/stops. But only where the dust particles are. (that's not a "duh" statement, it's just that your sensor isn't likely to be covered with dust unless you've done a bad cleaning job and smeared something on the sensor)

03/11/2007 10:18:26 PM · #6
Originally posted by dwterry:

The dust bunnies are usually only tiny particles. So how does it affect how sharp the image is? Very much at smaller f/stops. But only where the dust particles are. (that's not a "duh" statement, it's just that your sensor isn't likely to be covered with dust unless you've done a bad cleaning job and smeared something on the sensor)


OK, thanks for you time and the information.
03/11/2007 10:20:07 PM · #7
Okay, here are three examples. I just shot these using my Canon 5D and the Canon 100mm 2.8 Macro lens. These were hand held and I didn't do a very good job of pointing at the same location on the wall each time ... so ignore everything else and focus mainly on the sensor dust that I'm trying to show you.

f/32

f/5.6

f/2.8

Notice the difference in how visible the sensor dust is at the various apertures? Wide open, the dust is barely visible. But at tiny apertures the dust is very distinct.

03/11/2007 10:22:27 PM · #8
Originally posted by dwterry:

Okay, here are three examples. I just shot these using my Canon 5D and the Canon 100mm 2.8 Macro lens. These were hand held and I didn't do a very good job of pointing at the same location on the wall each time ... so ignore everything else and focus mainly on the sensor dust that I'm trying to show you.

f/32

f/5.6

f/2.8

Notice the difference in how visible the sensor dust is at the various apertures? Wide open, the dust is barely visible. But at tiny apertures the dust is very distinct.


IC, big help!!! Since you brought up the 100mm 2.8 macro. Thats my problem. I just bought it and the sharpness is really bad. So, I'm just thinking about everything that could be wrong. Do you want me to post some pictures of it?
03/11/2007 10:24:13 PM · #9
Originally posted by philup:

Do you want me to post some pictures of it?


Sure. If nothing else, I think you'll learn something (if it's your first time shooting f/32 at a blank wall, that is). Be afraid. Be very, very afraid. ;-)

03/11/2007 10:31:50 PM · #10
Here is my sharpness problem. First picture is the picture just resize save to web and the 2nd one is 100% crop. No editing on these pictures. F10 iso 200 sutter 100 taken on a tripod, manual focus, remote switch.





Maybe I don't understand what I'm doing but I think it should be sharper than that. Thats why I'm asking about sensor dust. I will take a picture of a white wall in a bit to see how bad it really is. Kinda scared to.
03/11/2007 10:34:58 PM · #11
That doesn't look like sensor dust to me. It looks like the focus wasn't right on. See if this article about lens focusing helps find the problem.
03/11/2007 11:34:19 PM · #12
Hey..take if from a Macro man and a man who scratched his sensor because I was obsessed with dust!>> Dust isn't going to affect your focus.

I see your shot and the 100% crop....I've taken many many macro shots with a 60mm and 105mm both macro...and I tell ya, the 100% crops are always a little blurry. The only thing that helps with a 100% crop in macro shooting is to have a steady hand, a big number aperture F11+ and GREAT light.

Believe me....most of your macros cropped at 100% will look a little blurry.

Cya,

Kenskid

Originally posted by philup:

Here is my sharpness problem. First picture is the picture just resize save to web and the 2nd one is 100% crop. No editing on these pictures. F10 iso 200 sutter 100 taken on a tripod, manual focus, remote switch.





Maybe I don't understand what I'm doing but I think it should be sharper than that. Thats why I'm asking about sensor dust. I will take a picture of a white wall in a bit to see how bad it really is. Kinda scared to.
03/12/2007 01:24:15 AM · #13
Originally posted by philup:


Maybe I don't understand what I'm doing but I think it should be sharper than that. Thats why I'm asking about sensor dust. I will take a picture of a white wall in a bit to see how bad it really is. Kinda scared to.


Sensor dust will not affect your sharpness. What was your aperture and shutter speed on the photo? When you look at a photo 100 percent the magnification factor is HUGE. Look at the image at 33 percent and it will be more like film with a 3x5 or 4x6 print. I can get sharp images at 100 percent and fairly sharp at 200 percent but the cull rate is huge. For a sharp image at 200 percent maybe 1 out of 50 images and this is with a sturdy tripod with ball mount using mirror up and a remote shutter release cord. At 200 percent you can't even go to F16 for DOF as blurring will occur because of diffraction.
This is only a factor when trying to photograph the tinyest things and cropping heavily. Fortunately for most shots here on DPC you can look at your shots at 25 percent and get a good idea how they'll look at the normal 640x480 or less we're allowed.


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