Makeup Learning Thread - DPChallenge Forums

03/09/2007 02:38:03 PM · #1

Okay ladies, if the guys can have a "cars" discussion, surely we can give tips and tricks for great photograph makeup! What works, what doesn't, and even what might.

I will contribute some this evening before/during/after shots.

You guys wanna start with eyes or just the skin in general??

03/09/2007 04:32:40 PM · #2

Okay, gonna start with a short exfoliation tut :) it will be up by 1900 server time :)

Any others gonna join? Perhaps share your lipstick tricks? Eyeliner?

fotomann_forever

03/09/2007 04:34:00 PM · #3

Why just for gals, some of us guys know a little about makeup too. At least us guys that have to know a little about makeup in order to tell the model what needs fixed. :-)

Brielle

03/09/2007 04:37:33 PM · #4

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Why just for gals, some of us guys know a little about makeup too. At least us guys that have to know a little about makeup in order to tell the model what needs fixed. :-)

Might also be useful for all you boys up for the crossdress challenge. ;o)

Message edited by author 2007-03-09 16:37:54.

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

03/09/2007 04:38:50 PM · #5

You are free to read and participate all you like Leroy :)

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

03/09/2007 05:29:17 PM · #6

before your makeup can look its best, your skin needs to be healthy. It sounds like a lot, but you really need to clean, exfoliate (gently if everyday, more intense if with a mask, etc.), tone, moisturize, and protect everyday.

Also, to get the foundation to look its best, I have found that a quick application of moisturizer immediately before is crucial. The foundation will go on more easily, more smooth, and more evenly.

Also, if you use a concealer under the foundation, don't "rub it in." Dot it on, and blend it a tiny bit, then cover with the foundation.

Oh yea, I approach skin care and make up from more of a consumer approach than a photographer approach.

And please, please, please, please wear some form of sun protection on your face everyday, even in winter.

Message edited by author 2007-03-09 17:30:30.

littlegett

Canon EOS-20D

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

03/09/2007 05:38:02 PM · #7

I have found that any make-up that 'sparkles' is horrid. There are a few models who wear it and sometimes you don't notice it in the studio, but you notice it on the images, and unless done with exact effect in mind, the images look icky.

Make-up can make or break a great shot. It sets the mood and for certain themes it's what holds everything together.

Not that Im an expert or anything just seen a few things.

Man_Called_Horse

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

03/09/2007 05:48:07 PM · #8

something to consider in this thread is the use of makeup and the effects of black and white photography.

check out some of the old silent movies. sure, white powder was used alot, but some of the more sophisticated jewels had "camera tests" before production got off the ground.

The camera test would give the director, and the DP clues on what makeup, as well as costume (wardrobe) worked well under the lights while using black and white film. The tonal quality that was produced by some of the early films are amazing because of the camera test, and the use of great makup techniques.

Black and white photography, digital, or film, still holds true to that standard of tonal quality.

Message edited by author 2007-03-09 17:49:53.

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

03/09/2007 05:54:12 PM · #9

Yea, if you know in advance you are going to go black and white, you can focus more on tonal results of makeup rather than making sure the colors "match."

levyj413

Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max

Tamron SP AF 17-50mm f/2.8 Di II LD Aspherical (IF) for Nikon

03/09/2007 06:03:38 PM · #10

Hey, that could be a fun challenge: Diptych in color and B&W. Take the same shot and show it in color vs. B&W. I'd vote highly for any portrait showing whacked-out color that looked great in B&W. :)

Azrifel

Fujifilm X100VI

03/09/2007 06:58:31 PM · #11

I think that the make-up part is one of the most underestimated things for people who start with studio (and outdoor) photography. It is amazing what a good make-up artist can do with a face and body, how creative the co-operation between the make-up artist and photographer can become.
Good that you know how to set up the lights and stuff like that, but good make-up can make all the difference.
Couple of weeks ago I had the chance to see

Anastasia work with Olga Seifert and some of us already know Olga Vasilkova's work from the 2006 DPC Workshop. Amazing changes to faces, great faces are made even more perfect. When the make-up artist does a good job and you have the lighting right, great photo's can roll out of your camera with hardly any postprocessing.
It looks so easy to get a great photo and people might discard things as "easy studio stuff". But a model can spent 2 hours in make-up easily, setting up the studio for an hour and shooting for an hour. That's four hours work for one great photo. But when you get it all right, it is all worth it.

Some more by Olga Seifert and Anastasia:
Motten
Olga Seifert
Rollentausch

For me one of the most interesting aspects of the 2007 workshop will be the make-up.

Message edited by author 2007-03-09 18:59:54.

03/09/2007 07:00:31 PM · #12

Okay, here we go :)

Exfoliation step by step:

Here is a shot before so you can see the results of after:

Now, you are going to need a few items :) A small (~1/4 cup) container of salt, a very soft toothbrush, and a soothing mask:

Run you a nice sink full of water and wet that toothbrush. Dip it into the salt and SCRUB AND SCRUB AND SCRUB until you get all of the dead skin off. This works for eyebrows too. Don't forget to close your eyes because you ain't never had pain like an eye full of granulated salt :)

Be sure to scrub your lips and hairline and eyebrows well. Do small areas at a time, rinse well, and look at your results. When you are satisfied that enough of the dead skin is gone, rinse your face well. You should look something like this:

See that angry redness?? Let's give a little bit back so our face won't be so mad :)

Now, apply that soothing mask to your face and allow it to sit for the amount of time indicated on the package. Something like this:

****WARNING**** DO NOT USE A PEPPERMINT MASK AT THIS POINT!! IF YOU DO, YOU'LL BE SORRY!! :)

After your mask has dried, either take a shower or simply rinse your face in a soothing cool water. Pat dry and apply a lotion with at least an SPF of 15.

After about 30 or 45 minutes, you should see a noticeable difference. Something like this:

Questions? Concerns? (no, the salt should not hurt your skin)

EDIT FOR SPELLING :-/

Message edited by author 2007-03-09 19:05:22.

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

03/09/2007 07:01:54 PM · #13

Yes, I know my lips look funny LOL I have a nervous tick where I pick at them... just look past that please :)

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

03/09/2007 07:04:22 PM · #14

I would add that it seems to work best to use small upward, circular motions when "scrubbing." Also, go gently at first. If your face is not used to it, it will almost feel like a sunburn when you are finished.