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03/11/2007 11:54:32 PM · #26 |
Congrats, they look great! It looks like you didn't let the tough lighting bother you in the least. Well done.
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03/11/2007 11:55:55 PM · #27 |
Erick, I know you've done months of homework before this event. I know you were prepared for anything and ya know what? It totally paid off, dude. These look great. They're creative, crisp, colorful and B&G are going to be very pleased I'm sure. :)
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03/11/2007 11:58:08 PM · #28 |
Yup! Great colors and with the challenging lighting, you really pulled it off. Nice job! :)
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03/11/2007 11:58:17 PM · #29 |
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03/12/2007 01:25:28 PM · #30 |
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03/12/2007 01:34:12 PM · #31 |
These photos look awesome. Wish I would have caught this thread earlier.
I would have told you I always make sure the B&G know that no other photography is allowed while I am shooting the formal portraits. People get lost and don't know where to look and you end up with all eyes looking different directions.
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03/12/2007 01:41:17 PM · #32 |
| The formals were just me thank god. But everywhere else there was another camera. |
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03/12/2007 03:07:37 PM · #33 |
| those are fantastic ... great job! |
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03/12/2007 03:14:50 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
The formals were just me thank god. But everywhere else there was another camera. |
I have only done 1 wedding where I was the official photog and it went great, nobody got in my way and if they did I told them polietly to shift!. Once I had finished I let them have a go. I have been on the other side a couple of times where the couples have asked me to take candid photos etc. When I did this I made certain I stayed out of the official photogs way - respect and consideration is the name of the game. I am certain your couple will be very pleased with their shots, excellent work.
Mike
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03/12/2007 03:57:27 PM · #35 |
Thanks Pam!
Mike I will be sure to clone out the tree branch and thanks! :-) |
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03/14/2007 08:43:02 PM · #36 |
| Hey Waz, great pictures for your first wedding! Nice going man! |
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03/14/2007 09:20:45 PM · #37 |
Ok man, I'm going to give it to you straight.
I am a professional wedding photographer, and let me tell you if you really want to make some money at it. You should really second shoot some weddings with some pro's.
At weddings things happen, and you need to improvise fast. Bad light, too bad, make the photos good. People shooting over your shoulder, to bad make the photos good. People not cooperating, to bad, make the photos good. Its raining, o'well hope you got some rain gear for your cameras. Camera breaks, o'well hope you have a backup.
If you want to really do wedding photography, you need something better than that D80. As a matter of fact you need a couple of cameras better than the D80. And as for 75 photos. Try shooting more like 3000 photos instead of 600, and deliver about 1000 pictures. Then back up all the photos, Then edit, color correct, and delete the junk the day after the wedding. Then pre-design an album, have their photos ready for them to view when they get back from their honeymoon.
Dude, and contracts, man... where do I begin.
And thats just a touch of what you need to know.
I'm not trying to be rude or anything, and I'm not saying you can't be a great wedding photographer. But Alot of people seem to think wedding photography is easy side money. And it is anything but easy.
If you want any tips just send me an email. O yeah, you may want to check out wppi/dwf. Huge convension in vegas the 26th through the 29th of this month. Come on out, I'll be there.
Travis
Message edited by author 2007-03-14 21:23:59. |
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03/14/2007 09:37:36 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by Travis99:
Ok man, I'm going to give it to you straight.
I am a professional wedding photographer, and let me tell you if you really want to make some money at it. You should really second shoot some weddings with some pro's.
At weddings things happen, and you need to improvise fast. Bad light, too bad, make the photos good. People shooting over your shoulder, to bad make the photos good. People not cooperating, to bad, make the photos good. Its raining, o'well hope you got some rain gear for your cameras. Camera breaks, o'well hope you have a backup.
If you want to really do wedding photography, you need something better than that D80. As a matter of fact you need a couple of cameras better than the D80. And as for 75 photos. Try shooting more like 3000 photos instead of 600, and deliver about 1000 pictures. Then back up all the photos, Then edit, color correct, and delete the junk the day after the wedding. Then pre-design an album, have their photos ready for them to view when they get back from their honeymoon.
Dude, and contracts, man... where do I begin.
And thats just a touch of what you need to know.
I'm not trying to be rude or anything, and I'm not saying you can't be a great wedding photographer. But Alot of people seem to think wedding photography is easy side money. And it is anything but easy.
If you want any tips just send me an email. O yeah, you may want to check out wppi/dwf. Huge convension in vegas the 26th through the 29th of this month. Come on out, I'll be there.
Travis |
I understand your reply but Waz never said he was going pro. Its his first wedding shoot! |
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03/14/2007 09:44:35 PM · #39 |
Yeah thats why I said "if you want to really do wedding photography" and I wish someone would have told me that, when I first started.
Travis
Message edited by author 2007-03-14 21:45:36. |
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03/14/2007 09:47:47 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by Travis99:
Ok man, I'm going to give it to you straight. |
uh, the horse is already out of the barn...the shoot has already happened. your advice, sound as it may be, is coming a few months and a few 1000 threads after erick first posted about this job ;-)
and it would appear that he overcame all odds and actually got the job done--imagine that ;-) |
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03/14/2007 09:53:50 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by Skip:
Originally posted by Travis99:
Ok man, I'm going to give it to you straight. |
uh, the horse is already out of the barn...the shoot has already happened. your advice, sound as it may be, is coming a few months and a few 1000 threads after erick first posted about this job ;-)
and it would appear that he overcame all odds and actually got the job done--imagine that ;-) |
Thank you skip! Well said!
Message edited by author 2007-03-14 21:55:32. |
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03/14/2007 10:08:06 PM · #42 |
| Hey Travis was just trying to be honest :-) |
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03/14/2007 10:27:01 PM · #43 |
Thanks GlodBerry.
And one more thing, if you spend as much time editing your wedding photos as some people on this forum spend editing their challenge entries, you'll go broke before you even get started. So do your best to crop when shooting, and make sure your comp is spot on. Also ajust your white balace as needed. This saves you hours on the back end.
Travis |
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03/15/2007 02:54:20 PM · #44 |
WoW I have been insane busy on remodeling my house and I didn't see that this thread had some action!
Philup - Thanks Man!
Skip - You Rock and thanks again!
Travis - I appreciate where you are coming from but...
You say my D80 is no good for weddings? Sorry but that is funny considering it is just like your D200 minus the 5fps and the magnesium body and few bells and whistles and yes if you had looked at my profile I have 2 body's and all the equipment needed for the job. That statement is just plain filled with snobbery and smacks of self righteousness. Kinda of a bummer coming from a fellow Nikonian.
The images that I shot came out pretty damn good. You seem to think that I might be an idiot. Of course I had a contract with everything spelled out. Deposit was made and all is well. I had communication with the bride for 2 months before the event. We had everything ready to go, time line, poses everything! Plus I shot at one of the most prestigious venues in Scottsdale so I must be doing something right.
As far as the number of images captured after the download it is like 800 and so far I have 250 keepers. But the number of shots delivered to the bide in this circumstance is defined by the communication I had with the bride and IMO it is, after all, quality over quantity.
As far as work-flow I got that shit down to a science. I have been using photoshop since you were 14. Again did you even look at my profile?
I planned, studied, scouted and defined all that I was to accomplish for this job and I executed it almost flawlessly, if I do say so myself.
In regards to your easy money comment. If you had read this whole thread you would have seen where I said that it was one of the hardest things I have ever done and that I have a new found respect for wedding photogs.
If I were to choose to shoot weddings on the side, after this learning experience, I know without a doubt that I would be a success and have referrals out the Wazoo (lol).
Skip said all of this better than I. But I felt the need to elaborate.
P.S. I looked at your website and you do nice work!
Message edited by author 2007-03-15 15:25:06. |
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03/15/2007 03:26:53 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
.... That statement is just plain filled with snobbery and smacks of self righteousness. .... |
I agree Waz.....
Travis, all you did was insult the camera, and presumed Waz didn't have anything else covered....You offered no input on the photos itself just implied that he couldn't be a pro...and detailed what YOU do, what did that have to do with what Waz did???
I can appreciate a wedding photographer feeling insulted when others 'think' this is easy money...all they have to do is do it once and they realize its not easy! I did one small friend (non-professional) wedding...I won't do another!
While your intentions may have been well, your deliverance needs some polishing up....Please dont ever try to be a motivational speaker!
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03/15/2007 04:03:00 PM · #46 |
Photoshop is no good for workflow, are you kidding me? I wasn't trying to insult you or your camera. After all its not the camera, its the person behind it. But you are going to need a camera with a higher FPS, as well as a faster buffer. As much as you like to hear it, people who tell you how gloden you are no matter what will not help you. You need to be critiqued to inprove.
I have a right to my opinion and I stand by it. If you post in a public forum, don't expect to get all praise all the time.
Now next time some one with a little more experience trys to help you, dont get all bent out of shape.
Travis
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03/15/2007 04:07:16 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by Travis99:
Photoshop is no good for workflow, are you kidding me? I wasn't trying to insult you or your camera. After all its not the camera, its the person behind it. But you are going to need a camera with a higher FPS, as well as a faster buffer. As much as you like to hear it, people who tell you how gloden you are no matter what will not help you. You need to be critiqued to inprove.
I have a right to my opinion and I stand by it. If you post in a public forum, don't expect to get all praise all the time.
Now next time some one with a little more experience trys to help you, dont get all bent out of shape.
Travis |
OK man you seem to know it all. You have offered no critique just opinion and we all know about opinions. Bent out of shape that comment is designed to incite a defensive posture and I guess I am just not in that mood today. LMAO
I bask in your omniscience .
Peace.
ETA. Dude do you read I never said anything about photoshop being no good for workflow. I said I have been using photshop since you were 14! Man read brotha'!
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03/15/2007 04:28:45 PM · #48 |
| I sounds like you had fun anyway, which is so important for your first wedding. Now you will have more confidence for your next. Good luck! |
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03/15/2007 05:21:49 PM · #49 |
I have no right posting in this thread, other than I was reading it and wanted to comment.
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
P.S. I looked at your website and you do nice work! |
I too looked at your website and found it quite nice.
And because...Originally posted by Travis99:
You need to be critiqued to improve. |
Here goes: I liked the homepage and the portfolio, the pricing page is really, really bland. If I am shopping photogs for my wedding, I like to see package options or even what your starting price of $2,000 includes. Frankly as impressed as I was with the shots on your website, I doubt I would "contact your studio for more details." I would be more likely to contact a lesser studio that had even SOME details listed. You album page is decent, except you need to reprimand your page designer for misspelling custom or customer...custome is not a word.
Originally posted by Travis99:
But you are going to need a camera with a higher FPS, as well as a faster buffer. |
Buffer is one thing, but I think FPS an overstatement for wedding shooters...you aren't shooting high speed action here. The fastest thing you need to shoot is the flower/garter toss, b/g exiting the church through birdseed/bubbles/etc, and the kiss (but if you're any good, you can get this in one shot). No real need for continuous shooting...hardly anywhere. I am not familiar with the FPS on Nikons, and frankly I don't care, I am guessing a D80 has at least 3...should be plenty!
Originally posted by Travis99:
Now next time some one with a little more experience trys to help you, dont get all bent out of shape. |
I might not have more experience than you, but still don't get all bent out of shape.
ETA: 6 frames/second then deleted it b/c it was bad info.
Message edited by author 2007-03-15 17:34:28. |
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03/15/2007 05:22:28 PM · #50 |
Waz, great shots at a great location!
ETA: I didn't mean to rain on your thread with my earlier post, just felt like posting.
Message edited by author 2007-03-15 18:16:35. |
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