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03/07/2007 12:38:57 AM · #1 |
hey... maybe  whiterook will ribbon |
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03/07/2007 12:41:26 AM · #2 |
| Will be nice to submit a photo and not get moronic comments about it being 'noisy' or 'grainy' for once. Maybe. |
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03/07/2007 12:45:28 AM · #3 |
I've been begging for this one for months and months!
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03/07/2007 12:54:01 AM · #4 |
| I'm still not understanding how noise or grain adds to the impact of a photo. Somebody who knows, please explain this.If its something that you just have to "know"....thats cool too. |
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03/07/2007 12:56:11 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by Wade:
I'm still not understanding how noise or grain adds to the impact of a photo. Somebody who knows, please explain this.If its something that you just have to "know"....thats cool too. |
If you want the easy way, I'd go for nostalgia or moody. Grain can enhance both feelings. It can also add texture to an otherwise boring photo. |
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03/07/2007 12:58:25 AM · #6 |
| I just noticed it was basic editing. That's gonna be a bit harder. |
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03/07/2007 01:01:11 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I just noticed it was basic editing. That's gonna be a bit harder. |
not if you still have your point-and-shoot handy... (d'oh... i just gave away one of my planned techniques) |
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03/07/2007 01:02:56 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by asimchoudhri:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I just noticed it was basic editing. That's gonna be a bit harder. |
not if you still have your point-and-shoot handy... (d'oh... i just gave away one of my planned techniques) |
color noise is soooo unappealing to me. I'm afraid I'm gonna have to do it the faker way. |
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03/07/2007 01:06:01 AM · #9 |
[quote=asimchoudhri] hey... maybe whiterook will ribbon [/quote
yea Hes getting better I had a look at his profile
so watch out hes the dark horse in this challenge after me
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03/07/2007 01:42:44 AM · #10 |
a link to the first Image Grain
Image Grain 1
Do you think that it will be harder with this being under basic rules as the first was Advanced Editing IV so noise filters were alowed? |
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03/07/2007 01:51:21 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by routerguy666:
Will be nice to submit a photo and not get moronic comments about it being 'noisy' or 'grainy' for once. Maybe. |
Umm you may still get some of those. :P
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03/07/2007 01:52:48 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by Shadowi6:
a link to the first Image Grain
Image Grain 1
Do you think that it will be harder with this being under basic rules as the first was Advanced Editing IV so noise filters were alowed? |
Noise filters are legal in basic but I'm guessing if there is zero noise in the original and you add a ton in post it would be a problem but that's just me guessing here.
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03/07/2007 01:58:30 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by Shadowi6:
a link to the first Image Grain
Image Grain 1
Do you think that it will be harder with this being under basic rules as the first was Advanced Editing IV so noise filters were alowed? |
Noise filters are legal in basic but I'm guessing if there is zero noise in the original and you add a ton in post it would be a problem but that's just me guessing here. |
I think that was intended to be remove noise not incress it, wouldnt that then become a feature of the photo? hence DQ
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03/07/2007 02:00:22 AM · #14 |
Adding noise is legal in basic. Here is the relevant passage:
"You may:
use filters or stand-alone utilities designed to preserve image integrity (such as Neat Image, Unsharp Mask, Dust & Scratches, and color correction tools). These filters must be applied uniformly to the entire image, and must not be used in such a way that their use becomes a feature. No “effects” filters may be applied to your image, with the exception of Noise and Gaussian Blur."
Message edited by author 2007-03-07 02:00:41.
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03/07/2007 02:10:55 AM · #15 |
Too bad it's not bad composition and noise....I might really have a chance then! :)
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03/07/2007 02:52:42 AM · #16 |
| Should be a third open challenge, for photos that meet the first two. I'm always conflicted about which to enter. Cross-dressing with grain would be great. |
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03/07/2007 03:51:25 AM · #17 |
Finally, a chance to shoot in ISO 1600!
BTW: Grain filters are NOT acceptable in Basic Editing...
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03/07/2007 04:14:25 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by tnun:
Should be a third open challenge, for photos that meet the first two. I'm always conflicted about which to enter. Cross-dressing with grain would be great. |
I donno... cross-dressing really runs against my grain, if you catch my drift? ;-)
R.
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03/07/2007 04:21:14 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I've been begging for this one for months and months! |
This is somewhat worrisome.... |
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03/07/2007 04:21:22 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by eyewave:
Finally, a chance to shoot in ISO 1600! |
aha just what i was thinking and i realize you've beat me to it :p
(now if only i could figure out how to hack the in-camera NR...) |
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03/07/2007 04:21:47 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by eyewave:
Finally, a chance to shoot in ISO 1600!
BTW: Grain filters are NOT acceptable in Basic Editing... |
Finally? I shoot at 1600 alot here. It seems to be dark more often than not in Germany. |
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03/07/2007 04:59:18 AM · #22 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Adding noise is legal in basic. Here is the relevant passage:
"You may:
use filters or stand-alone utilities designed to preserve image integrity (such as Neat Image, Unsharp Mask, Dust & Scratches, and color correction tools). These filters must be applied uniformly to the entire image, and must not be used in such a way that their use becomes a feature. No “effects” filters may be applied to your image, with the exception of Noise and Gaussian Blur." |
The way I read this, the entire paragraph refers to filters that are designed to preserve image integrity. There's an argument that adding noise isn't preserving the image integrity, it's destroying the image integrity and therefore isn't legal.
Also, if the challenge is a noise/grain challenge, then applying a noise filter would violate the "not be used in a way that their use becomes a feature" clause.
Can SC comment on this? |
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03/07/2007 05:41:51 AM · #23 |
Why the need to clarify the rules,
Take a shot with High iso, edit in the normal manor but do not use a noise artifact remover program. wheres the issue?
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03/07/2007 06:12:30 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by buzzy:
Originally posted by yanko:
Adding noise is legal in basic. Here is the relevant passage:
"You may:
use filters or stand-alone utilities designed to preserve image integrity (such as Neat Image, Unsharp Mask, Dust & Scratches, and color correction tools). These filters must be applied uniformly to the entire image, and must not be used in such a way that their use becomes a feature. No “effects” filters may be applied to your image, with the exception of Noise and Gaussian Blur." |
The way I read this, the entire paragraph refers to filters that are designed to preserve image integrity. There's an argument that adding noise isn't preserving the image integrity, it's destroying the image integrity and therefore isn't legal.
Also, if the challenge is a noise/grain challenge, then applying a noise filter would violate the "not be used in a way that their use becomes a feature" clause.
Can SC comment on this? |
PM an SC if you want to be sure but it seems pretty darn obvious to me that it's allowed. Here's the sentence that states so:
No “effects” filters may be applied to your image, with the EXCEPTION of Noise and Gaussian Blur."
Message edited by author 2007-03-07 06:18:50.
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03/07/2007 06:23:45 AM · #25 |
| This challenge is harder then it seems.. |
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