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 03/06/2007 08:06:59 AM · #51
Originally posted by TuckerUK:
Not to take anything anyway from the unquestionably excellent imagery, but unless the English language changed overnight (possible I guess), both the first place and third place winners for this challenge should be disqualified as neither represent acronyms. An acronym is a PROUNONCABLE WORD made up from the initials of a group of words. RADAR is an acronym. NATO is too. FUBAR is indeed an acronym. DNA is not. MPH is not.


You have a point with your comments on acronyms - they should make new words. However, the challenge description for the Acronym Challenge specifically describes DPC as an example of an acronym. Therefore, marking people down based on the fact that the set of letters does not specifically make another word seems a little harsh.

03/06/2007 08:52:39 AM · #52
This is just another case of the English language being 'adapted' by other cultures.

Originally posted by pccjrose:
Originally posted by TuckerUK:
Not to take anything anyway from the unquestionably excellent imagery, but unless the English language changed overnight (possible I guess), both the first place and third place winners for this challenge should be disqualified as neither represent acronyms. An acronym is a PROUNONCABLE WORD made up from the initials of a group of words. RADAR is an acronym. NATO is too. FUBAR is indeed an acronym. DNA is not. MPH is not.


You have a point with your comments on acronyms - they should make new words. However, the challenge description for the Acronym Challenge specifically describes DPC as an example of an acronym. Therefore, marking people down based on the fact that the set of letters does not specifically make another word seems a little harsh.
03/06/2007 11:23:16 AM · #53
Originally posted by TuckerUK:
Not to take anything anyway from the unquestionably excellent imagery, but unless the English language changed overnight (possible I guess), both the first place and third place winners for this challenge should be disqualified as neither represent acronyms. An acronym is a PROUNONCABLE WORD made up from the initials of a group of words. RADAR is an acronym. NATO is too. FUBAR is indeed an acronym. DNA is not. MPH is not.


HEY!!!! You can't take my only ribbon away! Please...

It did clearly state that initial letters where to be included in this challenge and i think i must have read this debate in at least 100 posts since the challenge was announced :0)
 03/06/2007 12:22:43 PM · #54
GT = Green Thumb ;}



this was actually just an exposure test shot. but i thought it was well composed and fairly well lit. i should have top lit the leaves, but it was a tricky enough exposure as it was - handholding the plant while trying to look through the viewfinder at the same time...


03/06/2007 12:52:11 PM · #55
Originally posted by craigester:
This is just another case of the English language being 'adapted' by other cultures.

Originally posted by pccjrose:
Originally posted by TuckerUK:
Not to take anything anyway from the unquestionably excellent imagery, but unless the English language changed overnight (possible I guess), both the first place and third place winners for this challenge should be disqualified as neither represent acronyms. An acronym is a PROUNONCABLE WORD made up from the initials of a group of words. RADAR is an acronym. NATO is too. FUBAR is indeed an acronym. DNA is not. MPH is not.


You have a point with your comments on acronyms - they should make new words. However, the challenge description for the Acronym Challenge specifically describes DPC as an example of an acronym. Therefore, marking people down based on the fact that the set of letters does not specifically make another word seems a little harsh.


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The Challenge description also says:
An acronym is a word created from the initials of words in a phrase, such as RAM (Random Access Memory) or DPC (Digital Photography Challenge)


I did enter WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get) and I was DNMC for doing exactly the same as in the example of the challenge description.

1. I think the Challenge Descriptions usually says too much.
2. I think the Challenge Descriptions, sometimes, give wrong interpretations.
3. I think there are some literally folks looking for a way to kill the others work, and the confusion of the Challenges Description is giving guns to these guys.
4. I hope they stop to give Challenge Descriptions. Many times, these words, only works for killing creativity and all afford applied in a photograph.

Message edited by author 2007-03-06 12:53:30.
 03/06/2007 01:00:18 PM · #56
Originally posted by De Sousa:

I did enter WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get) and I was DNMC for doing exactly the same as in the example of the challenge description.

That's not entirely true. Some of the DNMC you may have felt was most likely directed at the title you chose to use (by including the description of the acronym).
 03/06/2007 01:20:00 PM · #57
Originally posted by kevip6:
HEY!!!! You can't take my only ribbon away! Please...


Don't worry you won't get DQ'ed for a DNMC. You met the challenge anyway in my eyes, nothing wrong there. And even if an acronym is supposed to be pronounced, after a few beers I only speak in such acronyms and they come out very pronouncable, ask Pedro :)

My image suffered cos I wrote out what my acronym was in words. My fault I guess for not interpreting the rules properly. Lesson learnt, next challenge please.....


03/06/2007 01:27:04 PM · #58
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by De Sousa:

I did enter WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get) and I was DNMC for doing exactly the same as in the example of the challenge description.

That's not entirely true. Some of the DNMC you may have felt was most likely directed at the title you chose to use (by including the description of the acronym).


I'd also think that some of the lower scores reflect the fact that the image does not match the acronym: that is to say, the visible fork is clearly not the fork that makes the shadow, and so what you see is NOT what you get, you know? It's a great, twisted concept and I like it very much, but perhaps some folks are just more literal than that?

R.
 03/06/2007 07:16:27 PM · #59
Originally posted by TuckerUK:
Not to take anything anyway from the unquestionably excellent imagery, but unless the English language changed overnight (possible I guess), both the first place and third place winners for this challenge should be disqualified as neither represent acronyms. An acronym is a PROUNONCABLE WORD made up from the initials of a group of words. RADAR is an acronym. NATO is too. FUBAR is indeed an acronym. DNA is not. MPH is not.


You are correct TuckerUK! Nice to see there is other intelligent life on this website :-) Using initials because the Challenge description did is like the blind leading the blind, if you ask me. But, me thinks, the real confusion lies in the fact that common usage of the word has drifted a long ways from the technical definition.
 03/06/2007 07:36:05 PM · #60
I'm always having trouble with foreign languages.

Title your image with your chosen acronym, and let your image explain what the letters represent!

I thought the image should explain and not the title.

Had a lot of cash for a (too) short time, so I searched for a acronym with money: Time,Energy And Money.

03/06/2007 08:14:28 PM · #61
Originally posted by TuckerUK:
Not to take anything anyway from the unquestionably excellent imagery, but unless the English language changed overnight (possible I guess), both the first place and third place winners for this challenge should be disqualified as neither represent acronyms. An acronym is a PROUNONCABLE WORD made up from the initials of a group of words. RADAR is an acronym. NATO is too. FUBAR is indeed an acronym. DNA is not. MPH is not.


FUBAR is pronounceable only because we want it to be, NATO is the same, they both come close to a real word structure so that is what makes them easy to pronounce.

MPH could be spoken as a word (mfh) but we choose to say the full, Mile per hour.

Personally I think you & all of us need to be more relaxed with the definitions as it really isn’t about nitpicking over the English language but about one person’s photographical interpretation. Also shouldn’t you get out there & enter a challenge before you start throwing stones?

03/06/2007 08:22:52 PM · #62
So if an acronym has no vowels to make it a "pronounable word" then it is no longer an Acronym?? Hmmmm seems silly to me.... but whatever. :)
 03/06/2007 08:32:04 PM · #63
Since the challenge is over and the definition of "acronym" was discussed ad nauseum in several other threads, I see no point in continuing it here. (Not that I can stop anyone, but I thought I'd note my POV, anyway.) Besides, how relevant are real-world definitions to DPC challenges? If the DPC gods choose to define something and I decide to enter that challenge I do it based on my interpretation of their definition. Reality is another thing altogether ;-)
 03/06/2007 08:40:29 PM · #64
Originally posted by lesgainous:
Originally posted by Elvis_L:


T o P =Tower of Power. it is an air traffic control tower.


The actual "air traffic controllers" (ATCs) generally are in some smaller building (not a high building) with usually no view of the outside--it's all done with radar.


That could well be an air traffic control tower, not just ground control. It depends on the airport.

In "class D" airspace (I think that's an international designation, but definitely applies in the US), the controllers often don't have radar. Rather, they stand in the tower and look out using binoculars. Yes, they control aircraft on the ground when they're working the ground control position. But they also control aircraft from takeoff to when they leave the airspace and from entering the airspace to landing.

I'm well familiar with this system because my home airport is a class D (I'm a private pilot). Trust me when I tell you there's no radar - it leads to interesting approaches when the airport is busy!

Even for airports with radar for approach and departure, the radar rooms are often in the base of the tower; I've toured several myself. En route radar centers are often nowhere near an airport, but they're irrelevant to this discussion.

You might be surprised to learn that there's even commercial airline service into Class D airports, so it's not even true that airlines are always under radar control.

So Elvis, you're not as far off-base as Les thinks. :)

Message edited by author 2007-03-06 20:52:15.
 03/06/2007 09:05:50 PM · #65
Originally posted by levyj413:
Originally posted by lesgainous:
Originally posted by Elvis_L:


T o P =Tower of Power. it is an air traffic control tower.


The actual "air traffic controllers" (ATCs) generally are in some smaller building (not a high building) with usually no view of the outside--it's all done with radar.


That could well be an air traffic control tower, not just ground control. It depends on the airport.

Look up "class D" airspace (I think that's an international designation, but definitely applies in the US). The controllers there don't have radar. Rather, they stand in the tower and look out using binoculars. Yes, they control aircraft on the ground when they're working the ground control position. But they also control aircraft from takeoff to when they leave the airspace and from entering the airspace to landing.

I'm well familiar with class D airspace because my home airport is a class D (I'm a private pilot). Trust me when I tell you there's no radar - it leads to interesting approaches when the airport is busy!

Even for airports with radar for approach and departure, the radar rooms are often in the base of the tower; I've toured several myself. En route radar centers are often nowhere near an airport, but they're irrelevant to this discussion.

So Elvis, you're not as far off-base as Les thinks. :)


To be honest my response was kinda serious.The tower was recently built bigger that the previous one and is referred to as an ATCT or air traffic control tower. I was not wrong in my calling it that. My response about being in the Air force and working on the flight line for years was honest and kinda my nice way of saying I knew what I was talking about. Also i never actually said who was in there just what it was called.

The airport is the Savannah airport which only has about 6 gates.

Originally posted by press release:

Justification:The FAA is constructing a new, taller ATCT at the Savannah/Hilton Head International Airport. In order to insure safety and allow the control tower personnel to operate the airfield lighting the controls must be relocated. The FAA provided discretionary funding to install and connect the new airfield lighting controls in the new ATCT.


Message edited by author 2007-03-06 21:09:28.
 03/08/2007 07:26:29 AM · #66
Well that's me told over the acronyms then! I hadn't bothered to read the challenge rules, so of course did not realise DPC had been offered as an example of an acceptable acronym. Obviously English did indeed change overnight! My apologies to all for bringing this up.

And as to "Also shouldn’t you get out there & enter a challenge before you start throwing stones?"

No not really, you see my grasp of the English language is far better than my grasp of photography! But I’m getting there.

(Chants: I WILL enter the next challenge, I WILL enter the next challenger, I WILL enter the next challengeâ€Â¦)
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