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02/20/2007 06:04:46 PM · #1 |
| Ok well I have a really nice picture thats color, but i dont know how to really make it nice. Doing a desat doesn't look too great, selective color channels doesn't look good either. I cant post the pic as its in a current challenge but i wanna make a new version of it for my profile once the challenge has ended. |
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02/20/2007 06:05:30 PM · #2 |
| There's another thread discussing this same topic. |
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02/20/2007 06:07:33 PM · #3 |
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02/20/2007 06:09:41 PM · #4 |
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02/20/2007 06:14:32 PM · #5 |
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02/20/2007 06:14:58 PM · #6 |
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02/20/2007 06:33:34 PM · #7 |
Run a desat, but then try duplicate layers with various blending modes and fill levels. I tend to use Overlay and Soft Light quite a bit. That should heighten the contrast a bit.
Then if it's still looking a touch flat, make very very slight adjustments in color balance, never more than 5 pt in any direction: highlights slide into yellow, shadows slide into blue, and an optional midtone slide into red. This technically makes it into a duotone (or tritone), but if the adjustments are kept very very slight, not many will notice.
There are other tweaks to make as needed on a photo by photo basis, dodge and burn most notably, but that's my standard b/w conversion workflow. Not a terribly complicated process.
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02/20/2007 06:36:08 PM · #8 |
new adjustment layer - channel mixer, set at monochrome. Play with sliders.
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02/20/2007 06:39:40 PM · #9 |
Something alluded to by  e301 in other B&W conversion discussions but not really emphaphasized at DPC is that, for those who shoot in RAW format, it is best to do B&W conversion in the RAW image converter.
You have infinitely more flexibility in your RAW image processor for adjusting BW tonality than the channel mixer, hue/saturation, greyscale or any of the other B&W convertion techniques you will learn can accomplished used within PS (CS2) alone.
Try it, you'll like it.
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02/20/2007 06:39:44 PM · #10 |
I have no ideas, I just write tutorials. :-P
But, if ya wanna know what I really like to use for B&W conversion... I use Alien Skins Exposure more often than not :-)
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02/20/2007 06:40:39 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by stdavidson:
Something alluded to by e301 in other B&W conversion discussions but not really emphaphasized at DPC is that, for those who shoot in RAW format, it is best to do B&W conversion in the RAW image converter.
You have infinitely more flexibility in your RAW image processor for adjusting BW tonality than the channel mixer, hue/saturation, greyscale or any of the other B&W convertion techniques you will learn can accomplished used within PS (CS2) alone.
Try it, you'll like it. |
This is true. If you can convert before importing to PS, it works that much better.
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02/20/2007 06:41:52 PM · #12 |
really?
I feel so limited when I do that.. |
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02/20/2007 06:42:42 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by stdavidson:
You have infinitely more flexibility in your RAW image processor for adjusting BW tonality than the channel mixer, hue/saturation, greyscale or any of the other B&W convertion techniques you will learn can accomplished used within PS (CS2) alone.
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And CS3 is really kicking it up with the new Adobe Camera RAW with some nice B&W tools.
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02/20/2007 06:46:45 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by stdavidson:
You have infinitely more flexibility in your RAW image processor for adjusting BW tonality than the channel mixer, hue/saturation, greyscale or any of the other B&W convertion techniques you will learn can accomplished used within PS (CS2) alone.
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And CS3 is really kicking it up with the new Adobe Camera RAW with some nice B&W tools. |
I know. And I have no clue on how to use it. So I use the safe way, allthough I've been experimenting a lot with b/w.
Don't you love the new b/w option? Or is that one too "normal"? (I always use it after "apply image" setting one channel on soft light. I love it like that) |
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02/20/2007 06:48:07 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
And CS3 is really kicking it up with the new Adobe Camera RAW with some nice B&W tools. |
No surprise. BW is all about light, shadow and tonality and nothing does tonality conversion better than RAW converters because literally every conversion slider you have for color you also have for BW. It is not limited to fooling RGB tools like it is within PS. That is very powerful. Plus you have full 16 bit (welll... 12-bit camera limited) images to work with out of the camera.
Message edited by author 2007-02-20 18:50:47.
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