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Sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6 EX DC HSM for Canon

11/17/2003 06:41:54 AM · #4

very good useful info there !

Strange to see though that over teh course of challenges that voting has become alot closer !

Would others put this down to what I would state as "If the challenge isnt met we still mark it good for the Quality of the shot ?" As this is what the forums have been saying for a while now ? Isd this me assuming or would this be about right ?

Again gr8 info there :0)

Quadrajet

Canon EOS-40D

11/17/2003 07:08:19 AM · #5

Apparently voters are getting more conservative when voting on higher ranking images.

GolferDDS

Canon EOS R5

11/17/2003 07:50:38 AM · #6

I wonder how the scores would change if we were allowed to vote say a 5.5 or a 6.3 rather than just whole numbers. I often feel when looking at pictures that I could do that.

vadvirag

Canon EOS-350D Rebel XT

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

11/17/2003 08:22:25 AM · #7

Originally posted by lnede:

I wonder how the scores would change if we were allowed to vote say a 5.5 or a 6.3 rather than just whole numbers. I often feel when looking at pictures that I could do that.

You have right, sometimes I feel the same.
Vonautsch, thanks for the graph. :-) How did you have soo much time? But I like the idea very much! :-)

vonautsch

Nikon Coolpix B500

11/17/2003 09:06:12 AM · #8

Originally posted by vadvirag:

Vonautsch, thanks for the graph. :-) How did you have soo much time? But I like the idea very much! :-)

hehe...I must not have much of a life! ;)

sagestudio

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II

11/17/2003 10:26:07 AM · #9

I imagine the high scores have been coming down because there are more people voting.

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

11/17/2003 04:48:10 PM · #10

Very encouraging though that the low scores have an upward trend :)

Neil

Fujifilm X-T30

11/17/2003 05:51:25 PM · #11

As the scores tend towards the "middle", it shows an increased importance to having the site calculate and display variance (standard deviation).

That way, I can see that my 5 with a standard deviation of 1 is an improvement over my 5 with a standard deviation of 3.

Likewise our statistic page could show our average vote and the standard deviation. If the standard deviation is too small there, then perhaps that person is assigning too many of the same scores.

Or better yet, perhaps we should switch the whole thing over to a ranking system, which is really what we're indirectly doing in a challenge. I would be just as happy to drag the images into an "order", the from best to worse, kind of like one of those tile puzzles. I kind of try to do that with my scoring as is.

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

11/17/2003 06:06:01 PM · #12

I get what you mean about the ranking, but it would not be a form of voting I would agree with.

If I do a photo, lets call it a 5.0000. Ideally the score would not be influenced by other people's photos, it would always be a 5.0000. In reality I am sure it is influenced to a degree, as if you get 10 amazing shits your standards for looking at photos inevitable changes, as people are unlikely to give 20 10's in a row, even if individually each might have got a 10.

Anyway, my shot there gets a 5.0000 if most shots in the challenge are better than it, but also a 5.0000 if most are worse. The score therefore fairly (as fairly as possible at least) reflects the photo.

Do only a ranking system and that same photo, in a field of say 100, may suddenly come 10th, in a poor field, or 90th in a great field.

If I look at that photo and compare it with a 4.0000 I got for a photo in another challenge, it is not unreasonable to say "well, that was considered to be a better photo by the voting public". Have a ranking system and it is not possible to compare ranks between challenges, and thus harder to see if you are getting better.

Yes, you might see a trend for your rank to improve with successive challenges, but different people enter the challenges each time.

A vote of 7.000 on a photo means it is fantastic. A rank of 10th place is too dependent on who else enters.

soup

Canon EOS-30D

11/17/2003 06:13:40 PM · #13

i would call that an odd analogy ;}

Originally posted by natator:

as if you get 10 amazing shits your standards for looking at photos inevitable changes

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 17-55mm f/2.8G IF-ED

11/17/2003 06:16:14 PM · #14

*laugh*

Thanks for pointing that one out Soup ;)

It's amusing enough that I won't even go back and edit it out ;)

Coley

Nikon D810

11/17/2003 07:09:31 PM · #15

Based on Simon's analogy, if I am feeling a tad irregular I might dish out a bunch of 10s :)