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02/11/2007 01:56:34 AM · #1 |
My business parter and I own a marketing firm. Up until now, we've never had to do any photographer bookings. One of our clients, an up and coming musican named Hargo, has the opportunity to be photographed by famous photographer Mick Rock. Hargo has asked us to do the pricing negotiations with Mick Rock. However, we really do not have any idea where to start...from a pricing standpoint.
My question to the DP community would be what would someone like Mick Rock charge for a photoshoot? Most of his clients are celebrities...money is not typically an issue. For our client, right now, money is definitely an issue. So we need to somehow get a rough idea what a famous photographer might charge for a typical shoot.
I would really appreciate any help the community could give me. Thanks a lot.
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02/11/2007 02:31:24 AM · #2 |
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02/11/2007 02:33:46 AM · #3 |
One word...Barter!
Ask him what he would charge and then work from there.
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02/11/2007 02:37:18 AM · #4 |
Judi...I agree and trust me, we've definitely thought about going into the "negotiations" cold. We just wanted to look a little more prepared. This isn't something we normally do. Worst case scenario, we'll end up asking.
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02/11/2007 02:40:46 AM · #5 |
Try looking online at photographers costs. They won't come anywhere near what you should expect Mick to charge...but at least you will have a better understanding as to what to expect.
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02/11/2007 03:59:34 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by Judi:
One word...Barter!
Ask him what he would charge and then work from there. |
"Barter" is the exchange of services for goods. Don't you mean "bargain"? I doubt Mick bargains anyway; why should he have to?
R.
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02/11/2007 04:18:23 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
"Barter" is the exchange of services for goods. Don't you mean "bargain"? I doubt Mick bargains anyway; why should he have to?
R. |
Barter also means hankering over the price...coming to a mutual agreement. And yes..Mick probably doesn't need to bargain/barter...but it doesn't hurt to find out.
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02/11/2007 04:38:01 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by Judi:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
"Barter" is the exchange of services for goods. Don't you mean "bargain"? I doubt Mick bargains anyway; why should he have to?
R. |
Barter also means hankering over the price...coming to a mutual agreement. And yes..Mick probably doesn't need to bargain/barter...but it doesn't hurt to find out. |
EVERY definition I can find on the web (20 or so) agrees that "barter" means no money is involved: it's an exchange of goods and/or services for goods and/or services. I have to disagree with you on this one. If you Aussies are using "barter" the way you are describing it, you're mangling the Queen's English :-)
R.
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02/11/2007 04:42:23 AM · #9 |
Okay this is getting a little off topic..but I have to say that Aussies have their own language...their own dictionaries. Now many Aussies frequent Bali as their holiday destination and it is custom to barter...so the discussion of 'barter' is common in Australia.
Please read down where it speaks about US Dollar! There are many sites on the net about bartering in Bali where I am referring to.
Now back to the topic at hand...maybe someone else may have an idea that can help the OP.
Message edited by author 2007-02-11 04:44:35.
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02/11/2007 07:59:53 AM · #10 |
Loved Mick's work for a long time. Have some old books here with heaps of his images in it.
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02/11/2007 09:59:51 AM · #11 |
i think you mean haggle over the price.
wrangle (over a price, terms of an agreement, etc.); "Let's not haggle over a few dollars"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
Message edited by author 2007-02-11 10:00:55.
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02/11/2007 12:12:06 PM · #12 |
This is definitely getting way off subject. I have a feeling nobody knows what he would charge! I'll try to keep this thread alive, just in case somebody does have a rough idea. Thanks a lot.
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02/11/2007 12:21:44 PM · #13 |
sorry...
i certainly have no idea. it's possible he likes to lend a hand to an up and coming artist he enjoys though :}
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02/11/2007 07:06:12 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by soup:
sorry...
i certainly have no idea. it's possible he likes to lend a hand to an up and coming artist he enjoys though :} |
I'm sure most of his early work wasn't really for a lot of money. But, a lot of his photos have ended up as album covers (Lou Reed's Transformer, Queen 2 to name a few) so I'm sure he was well rewarded for this and obviously, as it built his reputation, his prices would of risen dramatically. Then again, he may be a bit like Linda McCartney was and do a lot just for the sake of taking the picture and capturing the artist?
Message edited by author 2007-02-11 19:06:56.
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02/11/2007 09:03:27 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Makka:
Loved Mick's work for a long time. Have some old books here with heaps of his images in it. |
Well, thank you very much!
I must say, it's about time I got a little recognition. :)
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02/11/2007 09:04:52 PM · #16 |
Oh by the way, I'll shoot anything for $100K or so.
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02/11/2007 09:09:58 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by Mick:
Originally posted by Makka:
Loved Mick's work for a long time. Have some old books here with heaps of his images in it. |
Well, thank you very much!
I must say, it's about time I got a little recognition. :) |
lol thats funny, I thought the mick I quoted was the mick in question here...
anyhoo, as a photographer in the industry I say just be honest with him. tell him that you are part of a marketing firm, and you would like to purchase the files to his FINAL images. that is let him do the photoshop work that he does, (that is kind of a photographers signiture thing these days) and then purchase the files from him of the ones you feel that you will use in your marketing work.
I'm sure he is resonable, and will help you out from there.
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02/11/2007 09:24:42 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by Mick:
Originally posted by Makka:
Loved Mick's work for a long time. Have some old books here with heaps of his images in it. |
Well, thank you very much!
I must say, it's about time I got a little recognition. :) |
:)
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02/11/2007 09:35:49 PM · #19 |
| For an unknown, there is nothing to bargain about. The well known photographer really has a lot more to offer than your client. Your client stands to gain from the deal - more than the photographer does. If eventually, your client turns out to be the next best thing since sliced bread, then so well and good. In the meantime, I reckon you pay according to the card by the hour and etc. Think of an hourly cost, add in props or location and assistant fees and you can work out a near figure for, say, a two hour session. |
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