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02/16/2007 08:57:31 AM · #76 |
Originally posted by NstiG8tr:
Originally posted by BradP:
My oil changes are about $40 and up, and stand fast on it.
No shortage of appointments for them here either. |
Sad thing is there are people that will pay that much to have their oil changed. I can go to my local Dodge dealer and have the oil changed on my truck for $50 and it's a deisel that holds 12 quarts of oil. |
I used to make a lot of money doing repairs, i.e., replacing oil pans and cleaning oil slicks out from the underside of cars because of those $19.95 oil change whores.
The sad part of it is that, of course, those a$$holes always deny that they didn't tighten or that they did strip, the drain plug in the oil pan.
Customer pay......through the nose!
That said, it shouldn't cost $100 for an oil change, either.
What I used to do was one to two full lubrication services a year, depending on mileage, and the rest of the time it was just a dump and fill, change filter, and go.
Those $19.95 places give you the fancy checklist with all those Xs on it, but it really does take an hour to an hour and a half to actually check the fluids, filters, belts, hoses, lube the locks, latches, and hinges, and actually give your customer's car a conscientious lookover.
For that you need to have a decent relationship with someone who is interested in doing a quality job to ensure return business.
Brad understands that.
You do it too cheap and you can't afford to stay in business.
That ain't happenin' for twenty bucks.
You have to use your head to get the best value for the dollar and that doesn't mean the cheapest price.
I owned and ran a service and restoration shop.....when I was restoring a Healey or a E-Type, I did a different level of meticulous work than I did if I was just doing an oil change on an MGB.
I wasn't any less conscientious, and I still wiped up any errant oil spillage, I just didn't need the level of pristine for the oil change than I did whilst installing the wiring harness in the Healey.
So......on-topic relevance?
It's back on you to establish the terms, dude!.....8>)
If it's a corporate whore job where you make a couple dollars and lose all rights for shots that may be seen for years all over the country....I'd say no, but maybe you could sell the real thing to them by explaining to them what they need in the way of the photographic visual impact, and that they're dealing with a pro that can satisfy those needs.
I've seen your 'folio, you should get the job done right or walk away, IMNSHO.
And at least get photo credit if you lose the ownership of the shots.
Just my $0.02 US!
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02/16/2007 09:12:29 AM · #77 |
Originally posted by Skip:
Svetlana, yours is a perfect example of something not to be undervalued. what is the dollar value? honestly, more than i could afford. it is the type of image that really separates fine art from pedestrian art. i think you should price it so that it will be bought by someone who can afford to appreciate it.
also, your image is at the exact opposite end of the spectrum from the job i outlined in my original post. while i can agree with all those that would want to get a decent day rate out of a job, unfortunately, that type of event-job does not have the same value as one requiring a full day's attention and creative energies, resulting in top-notch marketing imagery. |
Svetlana, take heed.....
There are more than a few of us that cannot afford the quality of that image if priced accordingly.
Do *NOT* undervalue yourself.
That is a fantastic shot on multiple different levels, it is a once in a lifetime kind of shot, and to say the least, I'm proud to say that I knew you "before"......8>)
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02/17/2007 10:03:02 AM · #78 |
thank you so much Skip, Jeb and Greetmir!
I'll do as Greetmir said:)
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02/17/2007 10:20:57 AM · #79 |
Greetmir is smiling! Wow! ... I hope my idea and opinion works for you, Svetlana. This photo is SO good!
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02/17/2007 10:24:07 AM · #80 |
;)
do you only prefer chocolate with poison?
I can't promise you a photo because I haven't printed it yet and i'm not quite sure I have a budget enough for all the 25 copies now, hehe:)
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02/17/2007 10:34:30 AM · #81 |
Heck ... you dont have to buy them all until you have orders for em ... having just a couple ready to go would be good though. :)
That is why you see so many things that you can order that say "6 to 10 weeks delivery time" ... They don't OWN them yet. They don't BUY them until they see how many orders they have to SELL them.
OMG! ... I just realized how rudely we hijacked this thread ... ROFL!
Message edited by author 2007-02-17 10:39:34.
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02/17/2007 10:58:22 AM · #82 |
I must of gotten lucky... (I know my post is late here) but I was asked to shoot with the goal of producing four photos for an apartment building's rental brochure. The only criteria was that one photo would have to be of their activity night on Thursdays, one of the whole building, one of an apartment, and a head shot of one of the ederly tenants (smiling of course). I told them $300 and they countered with $250 and I agreed. Usually I won't haggle but there's potential for more work down the road. Not to mention my wife's car needs some work and we know how those mechanics charge ;)
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02/17/2007 07:52:23 PM · #83 |
No need to thank me silver, I just restated what Rob did with some conversions.
Incidentally, the divide by 0.6 is accurate. The divide by 0.6 is calculating what we call in retail a 40% margin.
If you want to take 200 dollars, you divide 200 dollars by 0.6. You will get a final price that will allow some other party to take 40% off the top. This final price will be subject to multiplying by 0.6 to find the price reduced by 40%.
To illustrate:
200 divided by 0.6 = $333.3333...
200 multiplied by 0.6 = $132
The difference arises because in the first example, the 40% is calculated by the final price.
In the second example, the 40% is calculated by the amount you actually want to get. |
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